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  • BSR
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 1562

    #46
    cette sensation s'appelle coke
    pix

    Originally posted by Fuuma
    Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.

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    • Fuuma
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 4050

      #47
      Originally posted by Faust View Post
      Nothing is a quality but a fantasy
      This can go on for two pages....

      I obviously like designers for a certain world I associate with them so I'm not like "Ro doesn't have good stitching!". However quality does matter and sometimes becomes part of the fantasy universe I associate w. a garment; I recently received a Geoffrey B Small linen duck (that's a fabric) trench that was slowly weaved and has some great irregularities and simple but perfect construction and it does enhance the way I think about it.
      Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
      http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...me-other-stuff

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      • Fuuma
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 4050

        #48
        Originally posted by BSR View Post
        cette sensation s'appelle coke
        J'ai le goût de la win! (la France devrait être submergée par les eaux pour cette campagne pute-pubardienne par excellence)
        Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
        http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...me-other-stuff

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        • neonrider
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 150

          #49
          I think what's interesting in this (admittedly junk) thread is that a "leather jacket" seems to have become a kind of cipher for (as above) quality/fantasy/etc. Ironic comments, but perhaps telling.
          ""assuming the economy doesn't force us to eat the rich and object-tan their hides" -- merz

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          • Faust
            kitsch killer
            • Sep 2006
            • 37852

            #50
            Originally posted by Fuuma View Post
            This can go on for two pages....

            I obviously like designers for a certain world I associate with them so I'm not like "Ro doesn't have good stitching!". However quality does matter and sometimes becomes part of the fantasy universe I associate w. a garment; I recently received a Geoffrey B Small linen duck (that's a fabric) trench that was slowly weaved and has some great irregularities and simple but perfect construction and it does enhance the way I think about it.
            Obviously, I do as well. Otherwise I'd be wearing Hermes leather. This thread is trite.
            Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

            StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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            • copacetic
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 209

              #51
              there is no objective "best" leather. all quality and all beauty is subjective.

              i own a piece of shit-stained lamb taint leather and i love it, so that proves that "best" does not exist.

              QED
              And "When the prince has gathered about him
              "All the savants and artists, his riches will be fully employed."

              Canto XIII, Ezra Pound

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              • ironman
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 829

                #52
                if you read the original post, neither of the two questions posed ask to discuss "best" leather

                Originally posted by HWith View Post

                What are people's opinion on Rick Owens versus Julius leathers?

                Also, what are your thoughts on the leathers used, craftmanship, pricing etc.?
                if the discussion were in fact regarding what qualities to look for in any designer's leather jacket, i would disagree that level of affection trumps all other qualities

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                • copacetic
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 209

                  #53
                  Disagree. Should I refer you to the title of the thread? "Versus" is unambiguous.
                  And "When the prince has gathered about him
                  "All the savants and artists, his riches will be fully employed."

                  Canto XIII, Ezra Pound

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                  • gohn
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 49

                    #54
                    I have both jackets. I do agree R.O has better marterials such as calf leather and it does feel better than lambskin which is widely used by Julius. But there are no remarkable difference in quality, except the zipper. Compare to RY (used by RO), I dont like YKK (used by JULIUS and CPP). I have no meaning to start zipper arguement again, but RO's "calf leather + RY zipper", does give me better feeling than JULIUS. I said "feeling" because I cannot tell the difference in quality.

                    Regarding to aesthetics, some of my friends have no any idea about Rick Owens and Julius, but they prefer my Julius jacket. Without subjective opinion, I believe the people are not idolatrous who give me a fair idea which one looks better (you may argue that I got a stupid RO jacket and a good JULIUS, which is not comparable, whatever)

                    The pricing, JULIUS is comparativly cheaper. "Comparativly" means the Japanese income vs. Italian income. ( I dont know R.O should be an American brand, or italian). But R.O has 70% in leather jacket sometimes, and I never seen it ever happens in Julius leather.

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                    • endersgame
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1623

                      #55
                      i barely fit into a late model julius 3 but compared to rick, julius lining is not as nice as rick's. julius zippers suck ass compared to rick's ri's. rick has tons of comfy deep pockets and 2 internal pockets which is great for carrying my huge wallet the size of a woman's clutch..

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                      • dji
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3020

                        #56
                        agree that the lining on rick leather is nicer, it does retain the heat a lot more though which is less than ideal on the summer pieces.

                        prefer the 2-way zipper Japanese YKKs personally, particularly on the tighter jacket styles. raccagni aren't exactly the smoothest zippers in the world..

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                        • BSR
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1562

                          #57
                          and ethics-wise, which zippers are the best?
                          pix

                          Originally posted by Fuuma
                          Fuck you and your viewpoint, I hate this depoliticized environment where every opinion should be respected, no matter how moronic. My avatar was chosen just for you, die in a ditch fucker.

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                          • endersgame
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1623

                            #58
                            it depends if they are from post-consumer recycled metal..

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                            • dmash1080
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 16

                              #59
                              Guy wants to sell me his AW09 Calf Mollino (like new, worn twice) for $1900. Are these things THAT hard to find? That seems crazy high for an over 1 year old Rick leather.........it IS calfskin and considered one of his best though. Is that price justifiable?

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                              • asecretmaker
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 109

                                #60
                                i would go for rick ownes leather. cause it looks better on me and i do love the leather rick owens used.

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