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    Quote Originally Posted by fit magna caedes View Post
    "L'maltieri" is pretty Googleable. And 1000 for a 9/10 CD coat is still a fair bargain.

    If we bought clothes based on the quality of each piece rather than external factors (brand name, second hand status vs new) we'd have a very different market.

    Funny that the leathers sell for less than the fabric coats these days. Pre-aged/creased/worn items seem to do worse on the secondary market, even when the buyer knows that that was the original condition.
    fact is, cdiem/lm/linea etc shit does not sell well. typical case of is-ought problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSR View Post
    fact is, cdiem/lm/linea etc shit does not sell well. typical case of is-ought problem.
    I brought it up becase I think its still something collectors look for even though the pieces are 10+ years old. It might not move the way it did some years ago, but compared to Cloak there is more of a market imo even though its even older. This is just in regards to the "everyone wants the latest shit" idea, which is largely true but there are exceptions.
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    lately i've been trying to understand what draws me to rick/drkshdw so much.

    why all my ricks are black? why it's so chic? why i feel like i don't need any other designer? why would a straight guy think that drkshdw label (rick on high heels) is the most awesome thing you can sew inside some simple oversized sweatshirt?

    here are some thoughts. in no particular order.

    1) beacuse... rick owens.

    i don't even mean the way this dude speaks - that's like music, but all the things he has to say about his work - all this really resonates with me.

    2) this is like the most polite and subtle way to say "fuck you". i wear drop crotch shorts with high socks - fuck you. all my overpriced clothes are black - fuck you. there's a dude on heels on every piece of clothing you see on me - fuck you.

    you can wear the most basic drkshdw stuff and still feel like the baddest dude around. and you won't get that by just buying some xxxl hoodie and shorts.

    3) the whole "baller monk chilling in his drapes" look you can achieve with mainline garments is like some hidden dream i always had in my mind, and rick is the only one who can deliver it to me the way i want it: very chic, very elegant, even "luxury", yet so fucking wrong and twisted, i'd even use the word counterculture?

    4) even though these clothes are long, i don't feel like i can't pull it off being 174cm. sure there's some exceptions - no slim coats that end below the knee, no super big footwear, and sleeves on jackets are always long and you have to think what to do with them (rick, please, they don't need to be THAT long)... but also, i think long top/drop crotch shorts combo looks even better on me than on some really high dudes. more special and rad. and some pieces that are short and look super weird on tall guys - they look perfect on me. this is very interesting really, shows how much depends just on proportions and your understanding of what you're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowrey View Post
    I brought it up becase I think its still something collectors look for even though the pieces are 10+ years old. It might not move the way it did some years ago, but compared to Cloak there is more of a market imo even though its even older. This is just in regards to the "everyone wants the latest shit" idea, which is largely true but there are exceptions.
    hmmm from what i see on ebay/grailed etc, dior homme slimane period sells way easier than carpe and of course cloak...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSR View Post
    hmmm from what i see on ebay/grailed etc, dior homme slimane period sells way easier than carpe and of course cloak...
    Good, I need to sell my one remaining Luster shirt, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSR View Post
    hmmm from what i see on ebay/grailed etc, dior homme slimane period sells way easier than carpe and of course cloak...
    Yes my old B50's and even my silver B50's sold much faster than my Carpe diems. Could be the prices of course but still after years my AV boots haven't sold but my Cloak boots did :)

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    The Guidi stacked heel is god's menswear gift to legs, but damned if I don't feel like a baby giraffe learning to walk.

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    my god devoa sneakers are gross

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    being a rick addict, i'm surprisingly cold to the white toe cap. been waiting for the day when you can purchase sock sneakers online, but now i guess i'll wait for the different version... idk, this splash of white gives me some "super hero" vibe, and i love my ricks to be subtle... plus they already feel like the most hyped pair of shoes you can get today. all black or black upper/white sole would be dope.

    so far i only seen the all black version at totokaelo, and the price is mad (2k dollars is a lot, but i'm in russia so that would feel like 3k to me, thanks to the political situation and the currency exchange rate).

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    Agreed. If I were to get them (which I am not), I'd go for all black. Same with geos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delicious_not View Post
    idk, this splash of white gives me some "super hero" vibe, and i love my ricks to be subtle...
    Haha, Rickman and his trusty bottom, DRKSHDW. I like the white detailing on the sneakers, but only sometimes. My favorite Rick fits are definitely the ones where I only gradually realize it's all Rick, though. It looks so tasteful and well composed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudleyGray View Post
    Haha, Rickman and his trusty bottom, DRKSHDW. I like the white detailing on the sneakers, but only sometimes. My favorite Rick fits are definitely the ones where I only gradually realize it's all Rick, though. It looks so tasteful and well composed.
    I as well like the white detail. Wearing the socks with cropped trousers definitely dulls the CHECK MY RICKS vibe. However I do quite like the look with shorts. I was curious as my reference to why I liked the look other than of course Rick wearing it himself. I think my appreciation for the look stems from my interest in Los Angeles gang culture. More specifically, certain gang members wear shorts with high socks and chuck taylors. The all black (Rick look) is a muting contrast to the khaki shorts with white socks they wear, but I like it.

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    this is like the most polite and subtle way to say "fuck you". i wear drop crotch shorts with high socks - fuck you. all my overpriced clothes are black - fuck you. there's a dude on heels on every piece of clothing you see on me - fuck you.
    For me it is neither polite nor subtle, but rather than issuing some kind of "fuck you" directly it is a parody of the very impulse to say "fuck you" in the first place. I don't believe it is a joyless parody -- far from it, and I don't think Rick would ever participate in something that is devoid of joy -- but it is a caricatured rebelliousness, however elegantly it may be rendered. And one can recognize in this, as one may perhaps recognize in all his work, an exhaustive exploration of both deconstruction and introspection: the ability to pinpoint what it is within us that wants to say "fuck you" to the world (just to take the example you offered), and then to offer it up as a point of repeated analysis, season after season.

    Now here's the amazing thing, in my interpretation, and it is what makes Rick my favorite designer: everything he does, he makes so incredibly funny, but he is never mocking us, nor encouraging us to mock ourselves. Nothing is cynical or malicious. We laugh to forgive ourselves, and amuse ourselves, because the joke's not on me or you or anyone in particular so much as it is... existential absurdity, maybe. Maybe the absurdity of draping the human form in the most devastatingly beautiful of fabrics and knits, but being sure to leave an obvious hatch to piss through. (Or maybe we all secretly wish we could get away with running around with no pants on! I could go on, but this is just the "random thoughts" thread.)

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    voltbird love that analysis.

    i mean, it's poetry, art, is it not?

    i think what draws me to rick is a certain element of the whole in your face look. it's ironic that clothes so nuanced and plain in most cases are the most distinctive and loud in a room, though perhaps mostly by comparison.

    as for the drapey, all black, i think there's something romantic about it, honestly. there's a brooding, mysterious beauty and intrigue to it all that can't be replicated with graphic tees and neon polo shirts. it's a phenomenon that is unlike any other in the world of fashion, at least considering how recently this style has seen proliferation in the world of higher fashion.

    it's beautiful and mysterious and distinct all at once, and it's not necessarily the look (though that too ) that speaks to and attracts me as the philosophy, attitude, and meaning behind the clothes. if i saw that elsewhere, which, to a degree i do, i'd wear that, but there is something about rick that is just one of a kind.

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    Fashion, including Rick, is not unlike a drug habit, but instead of distorting your perspective of the world, fashion does the opposite. Rick is probably just the druggiest of fashion drugs in that sense, especially given that he is so extreme, prolific, and consistent. And instead of destroying your body, fashion destroys the world. As such, fashion should be treated as a drug, a dirty little secret confined to dark corners, rather than something to be paraded and celebrated in mainstream media.

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    Why don't sellers reply to questions? I just want to know if you'll ship the item to my country and if so; for what price? Is it too much effort for you to investigate that you just ignore me? I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahn View Post
    Why don't sellers reply to questions? I just want to know if you'll ship the item to my country and if so; for what price? Is it too much effort for you to investigate that you just ignore me? I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY
    Not on this forum, but I tend not to reply to questions on grailed... I get so many questions. I used to answer all of them and there wouldn't be anything resulting from it, so I kinda stop. If the buyer seems interested, is not trying to haggle, or I've done transactions with him in the past that's a different story.

    Maybe introducing your question with something like: I'm very interested in your product and I am ready to finalize the transaction. Before bidding/buying, I just wanted to make sure that the shipping cost would be under ABC, or I just wanted to make sure that you would ship to my country.

    If I get a question like "how much for ABC" I tend not to reply. Then again i'm not the most motivated seller so ymmv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stagename View Post
    Not on this forum, but I tend not to reply to questions on grailed... I get so many questions. I used to answer all of them and there wouldn't be anything resulting from it, so I kinda stop. If the buyer seems interested, is not trying to haggle, or I've done transactions with him in the past that's a different story.

    Maybe introducing your question with something like: I'm very interested in your product and I am ready to finalize the transaction. Before bidding/buying, I just wanted to make sure that the shipping cost would be under ABC, or I just wanted to make sure that you would ship to my country.

    If I get a question like "how much for ABC" I tend not to reply. Then again i'm not the most motivated seller so ymmv.
    I understand this perspective as a seller but as a legitimately interested buyer I'm still just as frustrated.

    I've already inquired once about a week ago (very politely) with no response... I really want the item so I'm just going to purchase it probably and fight later if I have to. It's probably an SZ seller, so I'm announcing my apologies ahead of time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahn View Post
    I understand this perspective as a seller but as a legitimately interested buyer I'm still just as frustrated.

    I've already inquired once about a week ago (very politely) with no response... I really want the item so I'm just going to purchase it probably and fight later if I have to. It's probably an SZ seller, so I'm announcing my apologies ahead of time!
    as a seller i respond to every question i get, though i will say i see why other sellers don't as very, very few questions of the hundreds i've been asked on grailed actually lead to a transaction.

    sz is much more professional and efficient marketplace, though it can take some time.

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