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  1. #521

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    I wasn’t aware or if I have dealt with you before. But that was two different matter.

    Below is the close up picture of the ring I send. From the Red circles, the reflection of the ring clearly not show any sign of hairline scratches or even like those on yours on the picture you send me. Look closely, my Rick Owens shorts canvas fabric texture were even clearly represented.


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  3. #523

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    Just my 2 cents, but I have been buying from Magic paying gift for the last couple of years and never had the slightest regret.
    I am abroad now with shitty internet but if this ring is a wm one and the price us okay I might be buying it off you just to close the case.
    Still, artisan handmade silverware is rarely polished to a perfection, not sure if that's something to be expected when buying one.

  4. #524

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    Always a pleasure dealing with you too Newp.
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  5. #525

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    I won the case but I've decided that I'm going to keep the ring and let the deal stay as it is.
    I don't think Magic is a scammer - even though he think I am one!
    But I reacted as I did cause when i got the ring and saw those scratches I got sad cause I couldn't see them on the G listing and I didn't make them myself. I haven't worn it but only took it out of the box.

    What I don't understand in all this is how you reacted - blaming me everything and even treated me as a scammer.
    I don't think that is ok.

  6. #526

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    First of all, the first message you send me was saying that you were already want a $100(the full conversation you mentioned 3X) or you will send me back the ring without further conversation with me or Grailed/PayPal. So what kind of reaction as a seller you want for these message?
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  7. #527

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    Yes I mentioned that cause the condition was worse than what I saw and bought. I also mentioned I wanted the deal to go back but to avoid shipment back and forth I could take a price reduction. Only thing you did was blaiming me the scratches - so yes I couldn't talk with you and therefor couldn't do anything but to include paypal.

    What kind og reaction you should have had is you own to control but I don't think this kind is the right one for furture deals.

  8. #528

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    SZers,

    Please beware of this person Luis Alarcon grailed username: Luchianno or his second account mrlalarcon.
    Initially he sent multiple lowballed offers (50% off asking price)then compulsively purchased from me using his second account after I blocked his first account. Unaware that it was the same person, I sold the item to him. Now he’s asking me to pay for his return shipping fee and for a full-refund just because the item, to which I provided accurate/full description, doesn’t fit as he imagined. With such little purchase history (Both Accounts with only 1 transaction), he seems unusually well-experienced with exploiting paypal buyer protection as he’s well aware that he would lose return shipping fee if the case is decided in his favor (before this dispute is escalated to a claim), and is threatening me to pay for the shipping fee so he would erase the negative seller score that he filled with lies. Real classless garbage. I’m surprised I’m doing his mercy by not posting his full address and contact info publicly. Man at his age should really have more class.
    Last edited by qazwsx; 01-08-2019 at 08:20 AM.
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  9. #529

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    Quote Originally Posted by qazwsx View Post
    SZers,

    Please beware of this person Luis Alarcon grailed username: Luchianno or his second account mrlalarcon.
    Initially he sent multiple lowballed offers (50% off asking price)then compulsively purchased from me using his second account after I blocked his first account. Unaware that it was the same person, I sold the item to him. Now he’s asking me to pay for his return shipping fee and for a full-refund just because the item, to which I provided accurate/full description, doesn’t fit as he imagined. With such little purchase history (Both Accounts with only 1 transaction), he seems unusually well-experienced with exploiting paypal buyer protection as he’s well aware that he would lose return shipping fee if the case is decided in his favor (before this dispute is escalated to a claim), and is threatening me to pay for the shipping fee so he would erase the negative seller score that he filled with lies. Real classless garbage. I’m surprised I’m doing his mercy by not posting his full address and contact info publicly. Man at his age should really have more class.
    Sorry to hear that and thanks for the information. Maybe you should post all his details ;) He can always create another username though to scam other people.

  10. #530

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyarkies View Post
    Sorry to hear that and thanks for the information. Maybe you should post all his details ;) He can always create another username though to scam other people.
    Luis Alarcon
    mr.lalarcon@gmail.com

    Beware
    Last edited by qazwsx; 01-14-2019 at 09:58 PM.
    "Things you own, end up owning you." --- Tyler Durden [FightClub 1999]

  11. #531

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    Just for those who are selling worldwide on ebay and because i got scammed by a buyer :

    Always ship your items express/priority with a very fast method even if you're paid for standard/economy/priority shipping (all methods with tracking number,but not EMS ,DHL express,UPS etc) .If your item is delivered after ebay's expected delivery and the buyer opens a request ,you're f***ed up.The buyer will get the money back and can keep the item .This can happen when shipping overseas and in holiday seasons (Christmas/Eastern).

    So ,i shipped the order immediately when i got paid ,the item arrived at the buyer's country 2 days later and stucked there for almost a month due to heavy traffic.No custom's delays, just traffic.The case closed in favor of the buyer .He ensured me that he will refuse the parcel ,as he got the money back and the parcel will return back to me .I spoke with ebay and asked them what should i do in the possibility of a successful delivery or in case this is a scam .They told me for that scenario to contact them back in the future to appeal on that case.A few days later the tracking results showed that the item was delivered ,so i contacted directly the buyer.I got some cheap excuses that he hasn't received the parcel and probably a neighbor got it. Then ,the horror story began ,i contacted ebay.Basically ,ebay lied to me twice since i've saved all the past dialogues .They claimed that the case is closed before the final delivery and they can't do anything ,although you can read above that they said i could appeal the case.What's worse, ebay believed the buyer's words ,that he hasn't received the parcel yet and that someone else got it.

    There's no doubt nowadays that ebay's resolution center is the worst of all selling platforms and in my personal experience grailed is the best .I got scammed two times on grailed in the past (with chargebacks) and i got refunds twice from the assistant team ,even if i lost in paypal.If you can face all the low balling there ,i can only recommend to prefer grailed rather than ebay.


    PS. My reply to the ebay assistant when he told me that they rely on the buyer's message of a non successful delivery and not in tracking results : 'If the tracking results didn't show a final delivery and i -as a seller- ensured you that the item was delivered,would you believe me or the tracking results?'
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  12. #532

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    ryudy (Grailed) or Andy Ryu (Facebook) living in Auckland, New Zealand

    I sold a CH ring to him in February, delivered on 27th February.

    Now, after about 5.5 months (PayPal dispute is about 180 days), he has raised a dispute saying my item is fake.

    What can I do about this ? Any advise ?

  13. #533

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    Up to my knowledge PayPal requests items claimed fake to be sent back to the seller. Ask the proof for the item is fake (like a appraise certificate from the store), sometimes Paypal does it as well.
    The actual danger is with him sending you back not your ring but something else (for example, the FAKE ring, people were doing it with bags before). You need a lot of good photos of your actual item sent to him to prove to paypal he sent you another item back and not yours.

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