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  1. #521

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeroenr View Post
    Im wondering how long it will take before things get fucked up again.
    Glad your issue is solved.
    thank you, it was unresolved for like 7 months......

  2. #522

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    I can be mistaken, but this seller items look very similar to banned thirdofwaters
    https://www.grailed.com/hound

  3. #523

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamehame View Post
    I can be mistaken, but this seller items look very similar to banned thirdofwaters
    https://www.grailed.com/hound
    PayPal account holder seems to be Russian. Shit when did he get banned? SZ should have held a party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamehame View Post
    I can be mistaken, but this seller items look very similar to banned thirdofwaters
    https://www.grailed.com/hound
    Yeah, looks like some stuff he posted before. Would be easy to get back there. Another account and start scamming again.

  5. #525

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    https://www.grailed.com/listings/506...a-hooded-rider

    aaaand again, same jacket, same words, same price, same scammer I think.
    I dont think that it is relisted by anyone else because original thirdofwaters listing was deleted last year.

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    UPD: mods said, that it is not the same man.
    Last edited by kamehame; 04-18-2018 at 10:15 AM.

  6. #526

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    So apparently I got this guy from Grailed saying I send a damaged ring. Now he want to send back the ‘big scratched’ ring or I have to send him $100. User: LK92.

    I sold him a new condition ring, but he claimed received the ring with scratches.

    To Grailedofficial, if you reading this I hope you can look into this.
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  7. #527

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    That individual is particularly delusional, it will be hard to reason with him. I hope the mods rule in your favour.

  8. #528

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    Magic: I got the ring from you which had scratches - I even send you pictures of that. You then claim I made them myself but why should I buy a ring only to ruin it and send it back again?
    You say the scratches weren't there when you send it to me - I dont' know if that is true the only thing I know is that the pictures only showed the ring from two very similar ankles and inside, no close-ups or other pictures denying the scratches. - That is just a fact!
    On a side note I can inform you that we have done business together before. I didn't know that until I saw your sz name. You sold me a WM bracelet through here which were as described and I was happy for, so why didn't I scam you back then?
    The only thing I have done is pointing out the obvious flaws in the described condition and refused to accept the deal as it were. Because you were kind to ship it as I wanted and because you sold it for a good price I was willing to keep the ring with the scratches but for a price reduction, only to avoid shipment back and forth but after you claim I'm a scammer I'm done trying solving anything with you. I will instead send you back your ring.


    Blackfedora: Maybe I'm delusional and obviously you don't like me because you think I sell my things to expensive - and you are right to have your opinion, but that doesn't make me a scammer! - And I've never done business with you before!

    To mods here and on Grailed. I have pictures and mails of everything to show.

    LK92
    Last edited by Lois Grüveltner; 05-04-2018 at 11:16 AM.

  9. #529

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    Oh.. so you are a member here. Congratulations to you man, you won the case.

    Should I post my pictures here to let the szer to judge? Those pictures you send me the ring was heavily scratches and not cause by wearing or at least to my experience.

    And to answer your first question: Why should I send a heavily scratched ring and claimed that it was New Condition?
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  10. #530

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    I wasn’t aware or if I have dealt with you before. But that was two different matter.

    Below is the close up picture of the ring I send. From the Red circles, the reflection of the ring clearly not show any sign of hairline scratches or even like those on yours on the picture you send me. Look closely, my Rick Owens shorts canvas fabric texture were even clearly represented.


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  12. #532

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    Just my 2 cents, but I have been buying from Magic paying gift for the last couple of years and never had the slightest regret.
    I am abroad now with shitty internet but if this ring is a wm one and the price us okay I might be buying it off you just to close the case.
    Still, artisan handmade silverware is rarely polished to a perfection, not sure if that's something to be expected when buying one.

  13. #533

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    Always a pleasure dealing with you too Newp.
    Last edited by magic; 05-05-2018 at 08:54 AM.
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  14. #534

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    I won the case but I've decided that I'm going to keep the ring and let the deal stay as it is.
    I don't think Magic is a scammer - even though he think I am one!
    But I reacted as I did cause when i got the ring and saw those scratches I got sad cause I couldn't see them on the G listing and I didn't make them myself. I haven't worn it but only took it out of the box.

    What I don't understand in all this is how you reacted - blaming me everything and even treated me as a scammer.
    I don't think that is ok.

  15. #535

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    First of all, the first message you send me was saying that you were already want a $100(the full conversation you mentioned 3X) or you will send me back the ring without further conversation with me or Grailed/PayPal. So what kind of reaction as a seller you want for these message?
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  16. #536

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    Yes I mentioned that cause the condition was worse than what I saw and bought. I also mentioned I wanted the deal to go back but to avoid shipment back and forth I could take a price reduction. Only thing you did was blaiming me the scratches - so yes I couldn't talk with you and therefor couldn't do anything but to include paypal.

    What kind og reaction you should have had is you own to control but I don't think this kind is the right one for furture deals.

  17. #537

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    SZers,

    Please beware of this person Luis Alarcon grailed username: Luchianno or his second account mrlalarcon.
    Initially he sent multiple lowballed offers (50% off asking price)then compulsively purchased from me using his second account after I blocked his first account. Unaware that it was the same person, I sold the item to him. Now he’s asking me to pay for his return shipping fee and for a full-refund just because the item, to which I provided accurate/full description, doesn’t fit as he imagined. With such little purchase history (Both Accounts with only 1 transaction), he seems unusually well-experienced with exploiting paypal buyer protection as he’s well aware that he would lose return shipping fee if the case is decided in his favor (before this dispute is escalated to a claim), and is threatening me to pay for the shipping fee so he would erase the negative seller score that he filled with lies. Real classless garbage. I’m surprised I’m doing his mercy by not posting his full address and contact info publicly. Man at his age should really have more class.
    Last edited by qazwsx; 01-08-2019 at 08:20 AM.
    "Things you own, end up owning you." --- Tyler Durden [FightClub 1999]

  18. #538

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    Quote Originally Posted by qazwsx View Post
    SZers,

    Please beware of this person Luis Alarcon grailed username: Luchianno or his second account mrlalarcon.
    Initially he sent multiple lowballed offers (50% off asking price)then compulsively purchased from me using his second account after I blocked his first account. Unaware that it was the same person, I sold the item to him. Now he’s asking me to pay for his return shipping fee and for a full-refund just because the item, to which I provided accurate/full description, doesn’t fit as he imagined. With such little purchase history (Both Accounts with only 1 transaction), he seems unusually well-experienced with exploiting paypal buyer protection as he’s well aware that he would lose return shipping fee if the case is decided in his favor (before this dispute is escalated to a claim), and is threatening me to pay for the shipping fee so he would erase the negative seller score that he filled with lies. Real classless garbage. I’m surprised I’m doing his mercy by not posting his full address and contact info publicly. Man at his age should really have more class.
    Sorry to hear that and thanks for the information. Maybe you should post all his details ;) He can always create another username though to scam other people.

  19. #539

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyarkies View Post
    Sorry to hear that and thanks for the information. Maybe you should post all his details ;) He can always create another username though to scam other people.
    Luis Alarcon
    mr.lalarcon@gmail.com

    Beware
    Last edited by qazwsx; 01-14-2019 at 09:58 PM.
    "Things you own, end up owning you." --- Tyler Durden [FightClub 1999]

  20. #540

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    Just for those who are selling worldwide on ebay and because i got scammed by a buyer :

    Always ship your items express/priority with a very fast method even if you're paid for standard/economy/priority shipping (all methods with tracking number,but not EMS ,DHL express,UPS etc) .If your item is delivered after ebay's expected delivery and the buyer opens a request ,you're f***ed up.The buyer will get the money back and can keep the item .This can happen when shipping overseas and in holiday seasons (Christmas/Eastern).

    So ,i shipped the order immediately when i got paid ,the item arrived at the buyer's country 2 days later and stucked there for almost a month due to heavy traffic.No custom's delays, just traffic.The case closed in favor of the buyer .He ensured me that he will refuse the parcel ,as he got the money back and the parcel will return back to me .I spoke with ebay and asked them what should i do in the possibility of a successful delivery or in case this is a scam .They told me for that scenario to contact them back in the future to appeal on that case.A few days later the tracking results showed that the item was delivered ,so i contacted directly the buyer.I got some cheap excuses that he hasn't received the parcel and probably a neighbor got it. Then ,the horror story began ,i contacted ebay.Basically ,ebay lied to me twice since i've saved all the past dialogues .They claimed that the case is closed before the final delivery and they can't do anything ,although you can read above that they said i could appeal the case.What's worse, ebay believed the buyer's words ,that he hasn't received the parcel yet and that someone else got it.

    There's no doubt nowadays that ebay's resolution center is the worst of all selling platforms and in my personal experience grailed is the best .I got scammed two times on grailed in the past (with chargebacks) and i got refunds twice from the assistant team ,even if i lost in paypal.If you can face all the low balling there ,i can only recommend to prefer grailed rather than ebay.


    PS. My reply to the ebay assistant when he told me that they rely on the buyer's message of a non successful delivery and not in tracking results : 'If the tracking results didn't show a final delivery and i -as a seller- ensured you that the item was delivered,would you believe me or the tracking results?'
    Last edited by blackswan; 04-19-2019 at 08:50 AM.

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