for an entire industry based loosely on individualism and hand made quality (atelier) it seems to only support music that is automated and as individual as each single Big Mac... maybe if we're lucky we'll get a Rick Owens x Steve Aoki celebration party at the Standard next?
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Originally posted by upsilonkng View Postfor an entire industry based loosely on individualism and hand made quality (atelier) it seems to only support music that is automated and as individual as each single Big Mac... maybe if we're lucky we'll get a Rick Owens x Steve Aoki celebration party at the Standard next?
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Originally posted by Arkady View PostGod I know, if only we could scare up some dickhead wailing on an electric guitar we could reach peak authenticity.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Arkady View PostHahaha I do as well, and the SZ 10 year did quite a good job of integrating both.
while its true most guitarist are dicks its also 100% true that dj's are mostly dicks that have no reason to be dicks because they're not good at anything other than playing other people's music and pretending to be busy when everyone knows they arent doing anything but playing a playlist from their ipad.
simple question, when did the people that hang up the paintings start getting more than the painters??
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Originally posted by upsilonkng View Postexcellent ass kissing.
while its true most guitarist are dicks its also 100% true that dj's are mostly dicks that have no reason to be dicks because they're not good at anything other than playing other people's music and pretending to be busy when everyone knows they arent doing anything but playing a playlist from their ipad.
simple question, when did the people that hang up the paintings start getting more than the painters??
Most gallery art isn't worth the screws it was hanged with; that's a tough one.
Edit: to be fair to Tale of Us, you're also talking about a project with over 100 production credits.
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Originally posted by Arkady View PostOne would assume this set goes for the top end of both the dickheads who play others' music at similar speeds while pretending to do something and the dickheads slapping on a rhythm guitar to moronic slam poetry while pretending to do something. Neither is more refined by nature, or mutually exclusive, so it's nice seeing friends successfully book both to capture an aesthetic.
Most gallery art isn't worth the screws it was hanged with; that's a tough one.
Edit: to be fair to Tale of Us, you're also talking about a project with over 100 production credits.
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*the rhythm guitar is probably more accurate; it's a role, not an instrument. To slap on the guitar one would typically use their hands, although I've seen more esoteric approaches including power tools and genitalia per the running dick theme.
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We should probably stop shitting up the BBS thread with a teenage artistic credibility debate, though. A tool's a tool and not much more until it's in the right hands.
For what it's worth ToU sounded great in the space and context of a fashion week party -- I'm not a fan in general -- and I think the room would've cleared out in about 5 seconds if they were replaced with hyper-technical math rock, fusion jazz, post-punk wailing or anything else difficult to play and difficult to socialize over.
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Originally posted by Arkady View Post*the rhythm guitar is probably more accurate; it's a role, not an instrument. To slap on the guitar one would typically use their hands, although I've seen more esoteric approaches including power tools and genitalia per the running dick theme.
Yes, this is a genuinely unnecessary argument given the thread that it is under. I would also say that it is important to make sure you know what you are talking about before you try to offend somebody simply because their opinion bruised you.
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Originally posted by julian_doe View Post"Slapping on *the rhythm guitar" makes no sense either, because you are correct in stating that "it's a role, not an instrument".
Yes, this is a genuinely unnecessary argument given the thread that it is under. I would also say that it is important to make sure you know what you are talking about before you try to offend somebody simply because their opinion bruised you.Last edited by Arkady; 09-18-2017, 01:29 PM.
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To upsilon's picture vs hangers point, not necessarily in the same musician vs DJ context (I like both), but I do miss when fashion was indicative of the music and not vice versa. Designers shouldn't be the rock stars; they can't fill the same role. Fashion serves to separate and exclude, whereas music lets you know someone else also has those feels, be it Elliott Smith or Underworld.
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Originally posted by Arkady View PostWe should probably stop shitting up the BBS thread with a teenage artistic credibility debate, though. A tool's a tool and not much more until it's in the right hands.Originally posted by unwashedTry to use a phone camera in broad daylight or use a proper camera.Originally posted by AhimsaI've found it extremely pleasant and enthralling over repeated whiffs so I would highly recommend.
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Move this to a new thread, as it is a debate perhaps worth having. My own opinion - I'll give upsilon's statement credibility in terms of live sets where DJs don't have all that much to do, but to say that DJs who actually make music instead of simply playing other people's music are not musicians is blatantly false.
Also, perhaps some definitions are due before this continues. There are DJs and there are people who make electronic music - and they can be very different things. Plenty of great musicians make music by electronic means - to say that they are not musicians just because is ridiculous.
P.S. On the thing that started it - I've never heard of Tale of Us before, as my interest in techno is cursory, but I was not impressed with the set.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Faust View PostMove this to a new thread, as it is a debate perhaps worth having. My own opinion - I'll give upsilon's statement credibility in terms of live sets where DJs don't have all that much to do, but to say that DJs who actually make music instead of simply playing other people's music are not musicians is blatantly false.
Also, perhaps some definitions are due before this continues. There are DJs and there are people who make electronic music - and they can be very different things. Plenty of great musicians make music by electronic means - to say that they are not musicians just because is ridiculous.
P.S. On the thing that started it - I've never heard of Tale of Us before, as my interest in techno is cursory, but I was not impressed with the set.Originally posted by unwashedTry to use a phone camera in broad daylight or use a proper camera.Originally posted by AhimsaI've found it extremely pleasant and enthralling over repeated whiffs so I would highly recommend.
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