Carol Christian Poell

[Heirloom]

thus why i love that collection so much!

[laika]

great post albert, thanks.

very few designers objectify men to make them ornaments or creatures. This is wear i see unexplored ground.

wow, really interesting.
but do you think men want to be objectified?
why would becoming an ornament be a desirable thing?

[Mail-Moth]

A man becoming an object, or getting used by what he's wearing, may be experiencing a mild form of masochism. Being controlled - possessed - can be sort of pleasing. As can be any process that makes you a stranger to yourself.

[Faust]

great post albert, thanks.



wow, really interesting.
but do you think men want to be objectified?
why would becoming an ornament be a desirable thing?

Yes! All men want to be sex toys in the hands of beautiful women.

[Heirloom]

A man becoming an object, or getting used by what he's wearing, may be experiencing a mild form of masochism. Being controlled - possessed - can be sort of pleasing. As can be any process that makes you a stranger to yourself.

finally someone gets what i'm after.

I don't see objectification as something negative. it's just a point of view. you can through objectification be displayed as a very strong character, a being superior to humans. Alexander Mcqueen SS10. Highly objectified women, hardly women, more like the third stage of evolution; apes - humans - Mcqueen ss10 LOL

the only difference is how you reconsider the visual input from afar, instead from within. I'm more attracted to more drastic silhouettes than the normal format of mens wear. Women go through transformations within every season. Men are always bound to their utilitarian jackets, coat, pants, with smaller variations.

[theetruscan]

great post albert, thanks.



wow, really interesting.
but do you think men want to be objectified?
why would becoming an ornament be a desirable thing?

Yes! All men want to be sex toys in the hands of beautiful women.

This is unfair! It's just most of us.

[Sombre]

A man becoming an object, or getting used by what he's wearing, may be experiencing a mild form of masochism. Being controlled - possessed - can be sort of pleasing. As can be any process that makes you a stranger to yourself.

That may be true, but to me it resonates with someone who is bored with his/her life, or maybe with existence in general. Not that I am condemning that, one could say it happens to everyone at some point in life, but to seek refuge from that boredom through clothing seems a little superficial.

[Heirloom]

That may be true, but to me it resonates with someone who is bored with his/her life, or maybe with existence in general. Not that I am condemning that, one could say it happens to everyone at some point in life, but to seek refuge from that boredom through clothing seems a little superficial.

Yepp. We all have to work, pay rent, eat, sleep, grocery shop, shower. Why does creative areas have to be uniform too? I'm one of those easily bored people. I seek change and dissolving of existence in every creative aspect of my life, fashion being a major medium, music coming a close second.

[Sombre]

Fair enough. I can see where you're coming from and I can relate. But when so many creative outlets take us away from and dissolve our existence, where does that leave said existence?

Rather than have optional activities diverge from obligatory ones and release me from life, I'm trying to find a path where every major aspect of my life converges to properly represent who I am. I think that way I'll be less given to boredom. This plan may not work out perfectly, but it is my aspiration nevertheless.

[Heirloom]

I don't think it's one or the other. I'm just in greater need of breaking free as inherited frameworks of "normal" life fits me less than it fits others. And I simply find pleasure in exploring unwandered grounds. I'm already pursuing deeper satisfaction with my life by building it around my creativity and my mind. It's my home and what I'll always have when everyone else is gone.

[Sombre]

Ah. I thought we were assuming mutual exclusivity. In that case it's quite understandable. No matter how one structures one's life to fulfilment, one still has to partake in society, which can be less than palatable.

I'm not one for labels or being boxed in either. More and more I find myself smiling when I see unconventional people on the street. They have a lack of inhibition that I sometimes envy. From what I've seen of your posts here, you seem to have that as well.

Also, it's great that you're not content with mediocrity; I see that far too often where I am.

[Heirloom]

And this is where we go back to CCP. He should make more horsetail pants for men! :D ITALIAN STALLION

[C'est Fini]

oh sombre, leave the poor fairies alone.

[Heirloom]

i just find it strange that you find these questions interesting just because i want to put a man in the same context as women are put in in fashion.

[zamb]

Heirloom, it would be interesting to see what you would do if you were a designer.........