Thread: Carol Christian Poell

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    rarefried (like rarefied, but cooked?): You're right. Harman doesn't yet have a fully developed theory of beauty. Currently, he identifies it as a subset of allure*, but doesn't explain how exactly its different from allure.

    *"Yet there are numerous cases in which objects are no longer fused together with their qualities—cases in which an object becomes highly unique, elusive, and alluring. Let’s use the term “allure” to describe what happens when an object is split from its qualities and seems to hover outside them, beyond our grasp."

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    Quote Originally Posted by trentk View Post
    rarefried (like rarefied, but cooked?): You're right. Harman doesn't yet have a fully developed theory of beauty. Currently, he identifies it as a subset of allure*, but doesn't explain how exactly its different from allure.

    *"Yet there are numerous cases in which objects are no longer fused together with their qualities—cases in which an object becomes highly unique, elusive, and alluring. Let’s use the term “allure” to describe what happens when an object is split from its qualities and seems to hover outside them, beyond our grasp."
    This is a really great explanation.
    Unfortunately alreday used before...

    "Mihi a docto Doctore
    Domandatur causam et rationem, quare
    Opium facit dormire?
    A quoi respondeo,
    Quia est in eo
    Virtus dormitiva.
    Cujus est natura
    Sensus assoupire."

    ... to make people laugh.

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    Returning to the metre jacket, I like it. It overcomes the challenge of turning a 2D fabric into 3D garment without resorting to the tailor's techniques.

    And it succeeds in delivering a desirable, functional garment. I think the fabric rendition is better. Square fabric is "natural". Square leather is a fabrication.

    Also, if there is a design weakness, it is that the neck strap might be a bit low.

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    In the Atelier photo above the jacket looks a bit like a pair of trousers, pulled up over the wearer's nose. Viewed in that way, the wearer becomes a penis, tucked behind the fly. Or, perhaps the wearer is a turd, crawling its way up and out to freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docus View Post
    In the Atelier photo above the jacket looks a bit like a pair of trousers, pulled up over the wearer's nose. Viewed in that way, the wearer becomes a penis, tucked behind the fly. Or, perhaps the wearer is a turd, crawling its way up and out to freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docus View Post
    In the Atelier photo above the jacket looks a bit like a pair of trousers, pulled up over the wearer's nose. Viewed in that way, the wearer becomes a penis, tucked behind the fly. Or, perhaps the wearer is a turd, crawling its way up and out to freedom.
    Now that is some serious pseudo-intellectual bullshit worthy of this thread. Thumbs up, seriously.
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    I'm glad you read it in the spirit in which it was intended!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    This is a really great explanation.
    Unfortunately alreday used before...

    "Mihi a docto Doctore
    Domandatur causam et rationem, quare
    Opium facit dormire?
    A quoi respondeo,
    Quia est in eo
    Virtus dormitiva.
    Cujus est natura
    Sensus assoupire."

    ... to make people laugh.
    Christian, putting aside the debate as to whether or not OOO (or atleast beauty in OOO) falls victim to virtus dormativa, I really like this notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphex27 View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately I don't have the time to make 2.5k posts for them to be considered serious.
    No, I haven't seen them worn. Since when do you have to see a shoe worn to determine if it's nice or not?

    Listen, I fetishize Poell as much as the next guy, but what's fugly is fugly...


    pictures sometimes don't give a good representation of items. I use to think CCP was really overhyped ugliness until I handled it up close. I mean some things are ridiculous and ugly to me still, but you can't expect one to like everything a designer produces.

    The shoes in question at face value its hard to say really whether they are ugly or not, imo. I enjoy looking at them, though..dunno if the grotesque look on his shoes has grown on me or something, lol. I don't like when people say shit like, "OH those shoes look like insert cheap shoe brand ____" cuz its just an easy way out without explaining why they don't like it or why it isn't worth the cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by kunk75 View Post
    yes, after a few wearings it will look like michelle duggar's vagina.
    I almost choked, lmao
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    I find it strange that this site is dedicated to avant-garde fashion design yet whenever someone really pushes the boundaries there is a conservative cry of dismay from many.

    Isn't that the pursuit of a great artist/ designer?

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    Just because you do something outside the box it doesn't automatically turn out great.

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    for some reason, it's so easy in fashion for the avant-garde to jump the shark and become simple bad taste.

    less so in traditional visual art (painting, sculpture) in my opinion.
    And "When the prince has gathered about him
    "All the savants and artists, his riches will be fully employed."

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    ^yes, traditionally fine artists just get lazy not crazy (goya notwithstanding)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cremaster View Post
    I find it strange that this site is dedicated to avant-garde fashion design yet whenever someone really pushes the boundaries there is a conservative cry of dismay from many.
    If the jacket was part of a runway show it would elicit a much different response, I think.

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    who watches the watchmen?
    LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?

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    i dunno, was a bad season overall. rick was even one waterski from jumping the shark. felt like a spring/summer season in terms of failure.

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    CCP thread + good finds + WTF , I found the All-in-one...
    Watch from 38.00.
    It starts to be fun at 40.00.
    Then from 44.45...

    http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0199/v/...NjMxLmh0bWw%3D

    for info, 95万円 = 12 200 US$
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    If I could meet you in person I'd fuck you up and steal your PH you bitch. Fuck you and your site

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    Get.
    The fuck.
    Outta here.

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    brad pitt doesn't like to be touched...





    Last edited by endersgame; 11-29-2011 at 09:05 PM.

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    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (how do you guys find this shit?!)
    LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?

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