Carol Christian Poell

[kunk75]

i think not allowing your wares to be sold on line is not so much pretentious as foolish. it's called progress

[lowrey]

/\ I don't think it's that exaggerated. We've had entire discussion on that - even in your own fine publication Stephen from EM goes in depth about it! :-)

I'm having trouble thinking about pieces that can be classified as torture equipment - jointed boots, some earlies season boots and shoes.. what else do you need to suffer for?

Of course, some pieces are stiff and somewhat constricting, this is what I recall Stephen talking about, but they have this armour-like feel to them. I'm thinking about some coats/jackets and leathers, for example. While being cut small and possibly limiting, they shouldn't be causing any pain unless sized wrongly.

I own around 10+ pieces from Carol and most are normal in terms of comfortability, so this is why I'm wondering about (and partially questioning) this whole concept of suffering.

[ddohnggo]

likely because some of the shoes ruin your feet such as the dipped hikers, the jackets have high armholes limiting movement, some of the pieces are delicate and make you think they're going to rip/tear i.e. invisiseam (and sometimes they do rip and tear such as the paper cotton pants).

[lowrey]

dipped hikers, as in the 09 sneakers? mine are very comfortable, I've walked miles in them while travelling

[ddohnggo]

mine rape my feet. do you have the cordovan ones?

[Faust]

But isn't the only restriction Poell put's out, is release of images, and not the work itself. It's not like Harnden who prohibits his work sold online altogether. Of course there is also the control of sales but he's not the only one on that ...

Ps. I do think, in general, some of these designers are getting a bit too precious.

I feel like this when I look at invisiseam

[lowrey]

mine are kangaroo, they are quite a bit softer. I tried the cordovan and they felt ok apart from being a size too big, which allowed my feet to move around and made them a bit uncomfortable.

[BSR]

carol clothes are not painful, but you feel them (heaviness, high armholes, itchy fabrics, enhanced stitchings, curious feelings with footwear as well, for example in the seamless boots your feet flow, etc)
it's like they constantly remind you of their presence around the body (vs the clothes that are so comfy that you feel you're naked, or in a cozy place, like most RO stuff)

they don't torture your body as much as your mind

[Johnny]

I ownED about 10 pieces from carol, and none of them, not one, was comfortable, even remotely. it's not torture as such, but there is suffering inolved to a degree. is it worth it, is the question. some say yes, some say no, potato, patata.

[TheNotoriousT]

No idea why opinions on this topic vary so much but I own over 20 pieces from Carol. Leather jackets, coats, derbies, boots, sneakers, suits, gloves, pants etc. and except for some breaking in time on stiff cordovan derbies and maybe a little too tight (and stiff) kangaroo gloves all pieces are no less comfortable than any other stuff I wear.
Do agree with BSR though. Some pieces feel weird but in a good way imo. Thats part of the experience I love about Diesel!

[Faust]

People have different body shapes. I think Carol has a very particular body type when he designs - it's very easy for many others to feel uncomfortable in his clothes.

[kunk75]

one might think he believes the male has a wide waist and pipe cleaner arms, the leathers are tough for me. 52 is too small in shoulders and arms and 54 is far too large in the body.

[BeauIXI]

Every piece of cordovan footwear he does with any kind of extreme detailing, like the jointed boots or like many of the derbies, are very uncomfortable, simply because the cordovan he often uses is very hard and very thick- read not pliable, especially not at the vertices of the wrinkles, (or seams, in the case of the jointed boots) which press into the top of the foot, typically. It's tough, because I adore cordovan leather...

Leathers, however, have been no problem for me, maybe I'm just an oddly shaped person.

[swami]

Blast from the past

CCP:In this collection we used primarily leather and conducted research on the various effects of blood because we were interested in "giving back life" ...

... yes, giving back life ... evidently it is an esthetic aspect, as well as conceptual. I was interested in the color of the blood

[Monty76]

About to post these on classifieds... thought that I would put a few of the shots from the photoshoot for the archives here...