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Thread: Carpe Diem, Lmaltieri, Linea, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swami View Post
    Iam not as articulate as most of you in penning my thoughts but here goes...

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    Fixed your typo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    Fixed your typo.
    un published never seen before linea photos removed never too be posted again, again, this forum can be extremely depressing at times

    i don't have the time to try and explain art to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philip nod View Post
    un published never seen before linea photos removed never too be posted again, again, this forum can be extremely depressing at times

    i don't have the time to try and explain art to you.
    FUCK!! I was just thinking I should save those. Came to do so, now gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philip nod View Post
    un published never seen before linea photos removed never too be posted again, again, this forum can be extremely depressing at times

    i don't have the time to try and explain art to you.
    I was coming to write an intelligent response on top of the funny response, and you have to go and ruin it. Why are you so lame?
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    the art comment was not directed your way
    it was the lack of enthusiasm and inability to enrich the lives of
    that makes me lame
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    Quote Originally Posted by philip nod View Post
    the art comment was not directed your way
    it was the lack of enthusiasm and inability to enrich the lives of
    that makes me lame
    It was directed at me, just so no one else thinks he was insulting them.
    EDIT: Removed comment, not an argument I want to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philip nod View Post
    the art comment was not directed your way
    it was the lack of enthusiasm and inability to enrich the lives of
    that makes me lame
    Ah, well, you quoted me so I got confused. Mea culpa.
    So, it looks like the whole thing comes down to definition of art. I happen to be on the side of craft = art, utility be damned. This is an Eastern definition of art, as opposed to the Western one we are more used to. I would like to (again) offer a few quotes by Robert Pirsig which I agree with.

    "Technology [and by extension anything that has to do with craft] is simply the making of things and the making of things can't by its own nature be ugly or there would be no possibility for beauty in the arts, which also include the making of things. Actually a root word of technology, techne, originally meant "art." The ancient Greeks never separated art from manufacture in their minds, and so never developed separate words for them."

    "To say that they [the craftsmen] are not artists is to misunderstand the nature of art. They have patience, care and attentiveness to what they are doing, but more than this - there's a kind of inner piece of mind that isn't contrived but results from a kind of harmony with the work in which there is no leader and no follower. the material and the craftsman's thoughts change together in a progression of smooth, even changes until his mind is at rest at the exact instant the material is right."

    I am not asking others to agree with this definition, I just think it's a valid one and then one I see, or rather experience.
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    the guy basically created SZ and this movement and everything we're talking about. i consider that impact art.
    i'm not really sure what there is to argue about.
    you're a very analytical person, and i appreciate that immensely in your diatribes about politics and the economy. however, i find you use that same side of the brain while discussing fashion and art. for one thing, and i do not hold this against you, you are discussing these things from an outsider perspective, ie you dont actually wear the clothes because as you told us many times you are really broke. thats totally cool. and that shouldn't stop you from having an opinion. i'll i'm asking is that you try and understand that the mood and expression and 20 mins of putting on 50's haute couture-- which you find to be art from another era, that that can exist in this era under a different set of lights, and a different set of pomp and circumstance.
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    Fair enough. I'm definitely a spectator, not a participant, and that certainly changes my impression. I'll try and re-examine things, and so forth, but it may be that I'm too analytical (no argument whatsoever), and that as a pure spectator I can't really "get" the artness (not a word, sorry) of the carpe stuff. (I am completely aware that I'm trying to re-analyze the things you've pointed out I'm looking at too analytically, but . . . well, it's how I work)

    On a slightly unrelated note, I've been trying to shut down the rambles about being broke, as they contribute nothing and clutter the forums. Hopefully you'll not see that anymore.
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    the forum is a good place to dump and rant as i love to do, so i really don't hold the broke comments against you, but i'm happy you're policing them.
    ownership is a tricky subject w art. and just as tricky with fashion.
    ownership tends to lead to feelings which are very hard to put into words. and good feelings tend to lead to desire which means more ownership...so once you get into that loop the details which you see as details from the outside devoid of emotion, become this wonderful example of artistic expression for the wearer.
    so basically you just need to find some carpe for nothing and wear it, and you'll find your in the middle of a unique experience. and linea is that, NEXT LEVEL.

    oh, also look up arte povera, Michaelanglo Pistoletto in part. maurizio started making clothes 20 years after the peak, so his ideals were drawn from this art spring.
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    all these c diem off-shoots sharing the same lineage are getting confusing... can someone please clarify and give a big picture/list? and where each is based? what i can gather so far are:



    avantindietro maurizio altieri

    m.a+ maurizio amadei

    label under construction luca laurini

    FQR (the least c diem-esque; more 'french connection/h&m ie mass market than c diem)

    SL sara lanzi

    lumen et umbra issei fujita

    individual sentiments hiroko itoo

    augusta simone cechetto

    wjk jun hashimoto (not sure if this is legitimate anymore since jun's left wjk)

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    Getting buried..so back to the top with news.
    Grand PooBah Maurizio Altieri will be re-issuing 5 or 6 pair of classic Carpe Diem pieces of footwear. That's love my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHC View Post
    Getting buried..so back to the top with news.
    Grand PooBah Maurizio Altieri will be re-issuing 5 or 6 pair of classic Carpe Diem pieces of footwear. That's love my friends.
    Re-issuing things from the past because they're in high demand. It's good market sense. But, if it's love, I'd say it's this kind:
    [EDIT:Giant snarky pic was too big]

    I should add: I'm all for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHC View Post
    Getting buried..so back to the top with news.
    Grand PooBah Maurizio Altieri will be re-issuing 5 or 6 pair of classic Carpe Diem pieces of footwear. That's love my friends.
    Here's to hoping one of those is the linen over leather....

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    haha...actually, its being reissued for reasons beyond money. Though I'm sure its a factor somewhere in the equation.

    Edit: Have to quote Tupac cuz its echoing in the noggin. "For the love of money, fuck the fame, he be game." heehee. Nothing but love for the move though.

    And no linen over leather. He's reissuing the oldest of the stable designs.
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    I'm not sure when they'll drop, but I believe it'll be around the end of summer. Could be sooner, could be later...*shrugs*
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    i think i mentioned this before back in september. it's a line called memories, basically reissuing old footwear, but with minor tweaks to the details. i.e. hidden seams, etc...
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    Yea, a pair of Black 6 hole lace up boots with the more exaggerated toe. I wish I had a picture on this computer...

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    Bring back these babies and I'll be happy.



    Also I was flipping through my old archives, I don't remember seeing these. Not my thing but I think merz will appreciate the heel.



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    i believe it is plastic coated anaconda. I'd LOVE a pair :)
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