Thom Browne

[zamb]

Not as an intellectual per se, but certainly as someone who has something deep to offer in the realm of fashion.

nothing deep there,
the pants are short and the jackets shallow........

[Faust]

Hey, that's what I said since day one. But who listens to me...

[laika]

Not as an intellectual per se, but certainly as someone who has something deep to offer in the realm of fashion.

I don't really see anyone lauding him as deep (but maybe i've missed something?). I think (some) people are attracted to the narrative behind the clothes, however artificial it may be. And I think journalists find him interesting because he has actually directly influenced the way men dress on the streets, at least in urban areas. I agree with Johnny that the articles are repetitive, but I think that's kind of the point...

***I also would not call him "deep," but deep is kind of an ambiguous word, no? I'm not sure what designer I would call deep, apart from the die hard conceptualists...

[Faust]

I didn't say he's deep, I say the media (and himself I'm sure) claims that he has something deeper to offer than say Tim Hamilton or Adam Kimmel.

[Faust]

Here is just one example.

[laika]

I didn't say he's deep, I say the media (and himself I'm sure) claims that he has something deeper to offer than say Tim Hamilton or Adam Kimmel.

Yes, I realize, I would never accuse you of such a thing!!

I was just wondering what one means by "deep," which does not strike me as a particularly meaningful word on its own. I do think he has more to offer than the two people you mentioned, if only because the image/story he has built for his line has proved to be very compelling and influencial, even if only for a moment. He has caught a whiff of the zeitgeist, one might say...

[laika]

Here is just one example.

yeah, calling him a philosopher is definitely pretty silly. Cathy has since changed her mind about him, if i recall correctly. Fashion is such a fickle business....

[misc_msc]

i find his suits, though meticulously crafted, aren't cut very well

[misc_msc]

and by god, the black fleece suits are even worse... feels really cheap

[rlschwart]

and by god, the black fleece suits are even worse... feels really cheap

I don't mind the suits. I just can't fathom paying $3,000 for anything at Brooks Brothers.

[Johnny]

Are you a 48?

Yes, but I'm about an inch out in terms of proportion at the waist. I blame it on Christmas excess.

[Fade to Black]

***I also would not call him "deep," but deep is kind of an ambiguous word, no? I'm not sure what designer I would call deep, apart from the die hard conceptualists...

Exactly.

Nothing is deep. Let alone fashion.

[Faust]

I don't really see anyone lauding him as deep (but maybe i've missed something?). I think (some) people are attracted to the narrative behind the clothes, however artificial it may be. And I think journalists find him interesting because he has actually directly influenced the way men dress on the streets, at least in urban areas. I agree with Johnny that the articles are repetitive, but I think that's kind of the point...

***I also would not call him "deep," but deep is kind of an ambiguous word, no? I'm not sure what designer I would call deep, apart from the die hard conceptualists...

I don't think "deep" is an ambiguous term, especially in opposition to "shallow". Yohji - deep, Tom Ford - shallow. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

[Real Real]

Black Fleece feels cheap? You may not like the cut (I don't on a lot of it), but the materials and construction are about as good as it gets, just like everything TB does.

That's at least true for the first couple of seasons, I don't really know what the more recent seasons have been like.

[philip nod]

Exactly.

Nothing is deep. Let alone fashion.

a swimming pool is deep. if you're not in the shallow end. which is where you appear to wading day after day.