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    Eh, 50k-60K, is not average for a twenty-something.

    You'll eventually get to the point where the thought crosses your mind that your wardrobe IS your retirement, but first you have to rid yourself of the silly idea that your wardrobe is a hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byhand View Post
    Eh, 50k-60K, is not average for a twenty-something.

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    no kidding. surely it isn't right? i made like half that in my mid-twentys.
    dying and coming back gives you considerable perspective

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    Quote Originally Posted by YTheLastMan View Post
    Assuming one earns a 'normal' or pseudo-normal wage - I'm talking like...50-60k? I reckon that's average for an educated, non-finance person in their mid 20s.

    Do you guys place more importance on this 'hobby' (is that the correct way to frame it?) versus other nominal things such as vacations?

    How does the importance of your wardrobe/style compare to saving for retirement or whatever long-term goals you may have?
    HOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
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    I'm in the long arduous process of moving my interest in clothes away from a hobby/ collectors perspective in an attempt to have a smaller, more efficient wardrobe. So far I've found it hard to edit the collection of things already acquired esp since I become sentimentally attached and associate the items with a specific time or idea. Workin on it.

    To relate my post to the question at hand more closely, I indeed have found myself adding items to my grail list, acquiring them (or a series of facsimiles, another pitfall) and then finding myself just adding new ones. I'm getting bored of this as I simultaneously run out of room. I realized that I dont want to make my living space a fashion archive. I also realized I dont get enjoyment out of owning things as much as I get out of using/experiencing them.

    I find inspiration to stay the course and pare things down to essentials from the fun (and freedom) I feel from packing the right amount of items for a long trip. Its a real joy to have JUST what you need and adhere to the principle of packing what one will enjoy wearing MOST.

    Then while traveling it becomes another experience to mix and match these things in ways I didn't expect, but thoroughly enjoy. Time, necessity and a moderate sense of style guarantees this will happen. I've found that this is when a real relationship with clothing begins.. It feels pretty great to wear the fuck out of the best blazer for the season and the most appropriate boots while patting oneself on the back for leaving the more costume-y items that would have been nothing but unused dead weight....! To experience this while not being bogged down with tons of stuff has been my inspiration to lighten my load and have a strong, pared down and efficient wardrobe.

    Im not that close yet, still working on it.
    I'll let you know how it goes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by byhand View Post
    Eh, 50k-60K, is not average for a twenty-something.

    You'll eventually get to the point where the thought crosses your mind that your wardrobe IS your retirement, but first you have to rid yourself of the silly idea that your wardrobe is a hobby.
    In that case, I guess I'm doing a lot better than I thought

    I don't necessarily frame my wardrobe as a hobby, I suppose I'm used to treading lightly with regards to coming off as pretentious given the comments my 'pleb' friends make vis-a-vis how much I spend on shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    HOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
    hahaha love that!
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    HOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyl Only View Post
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    Im not that close yet, still working on it.
    I'll let you know how it goes..
    I really enjoyed reading this, thank you for taking the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YTheLastMan View Post
    Assuming one earns a 'normal' or pseudo-normal wage - I'm talking like...50-60k? I reckon that's average for an educated, non-finance person in their mid 20s.

    Do you guys place more importance on this 'hobby' (is that the correct way to frame it?) versus other nominal things such as vacations?

    How does the importance of your wardrobe/style compare to saving for retirement or whatever long-term goals you may have?
    Thats way off.

    50k is around the average HOUSEHOLD (2+ ppl) income for people in Canada. Then you have dependents, student loans, cc debt, mortgage/rent, etc etc

    Like what Faust said, wouldn't say this is a hobby, more part of my life. Takes priority over vacations for sure. Lately, my style has evolved into wearing the same shirt everyday. I do like to change my pants (usually washed blue jeans, skinny black jeans, or leather pant) and I have a couple of really cool belts. Then usually really plain sneakers (converse or vans) or some combat boots or biker boots. Ive gotten closer and closer every year to finding a "uniform" that works for me and that is one of my ultimate goals. Variety is so overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grapefruitpop View Post
    . Ive gotten closer and closer every year to finding a "uniform" that works for me and that is one of my ultimate goals. Variety is so overrated.
    that's great for you, but that sure as hell doesn't really apply to everyone, I'm actually extremely grateful for the variety of my wardobe and that versatility is exactly what I like about getting dressed for occasions.

    I love that if i'm going to somewhere, let's say an event for X brand, that I can wear X brand to X brand's event. It shows my patronage, they are grateful, and I am grateful for their hard work.

    and this also applies to a situation of just chilling or if suit/suit-jackets are necessary I can also whip that together.


    that (in my humble opinion) kind of mentality is just perpetuating more closed mindedness than the opposite when it comes to shopping and personal style.

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    For me it's definitely not shutting down variety - which is impossible because I'm a) a fashion journalist and b) just passionate about fashion and love many things I don't wear.

    It's about taking put unnecessary decisions out of my already complex daily life and knowing what works and what I'm comfortable in. We discussed this elsewhere, but maybe some new people missed this

    The case for uniforms:

    http://www.sz-mag.com/news/2014/08/t...-for-uniforms/
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    Style for me used to be about personal expression of taste and aesthetics and desireability (in my own way, not the "eligible bachelor" sort). Just sort of a sad punk look. But then I hit a point where Rick was weighing out most of my pieces/purchases. I tried to fight it in all sorts of ways, but it was for all the wrong reasons, like worrying about practicality for social situations, being afraid of looking like a fashion victim, fear of being outdated (as most seem to think Rick's best years were 08/09) or being associated with dumb celebrities, wanting to have that styling talent that some people do with multiple labels, feeling that I'm not "truly" expressing my personality by just wearing one label.

    But none of that seems to matter anymore, now I'm just a Rick drone.

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    Are you happy/satisfied with that? I'm still in the denial stage.

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    Actually, in a way I can understand that. If fashion per se is not your interest overall but you are looking for something that you feel comfortable in (not physically, but as in "this is me") and don't want to waste time and energy, then this kind of mentality makes sense. I definitely know quite a few people like that.
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    It's less a happy/satisfied thing and more of a 'this is irrelevant right now' thing. I've come to realize that my attention is one of the most valuable things I have, and I feel I have a sufficient wardrobe to be me and devote my attention to other things. At this point, that's my living space, and then I'll probably back to music after that. Not about to buy Rick furniture, though, I tap out at wardrobe.

    Faust, that's definitely me. Fashion is an interest of mine but not a main interest. I'm a latecomer to fashion, too young to have known Yohji, too ignorant to have known Helmut/Antwerp 6, and too poor to have worn Hedi. I love it all now, but I can't afford it more mental space than hobby (vs passion) this late in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudleyGray View Post
    It's less a happy/satisfied thing and more of a 'this is irrelevant right now' thing. I've come to realize that my attention is one of the most valuable things I have, and I feel I have a sufficient wardrobe to be me and devote my attention to other things. At this point, that's my living space, and then I'll probably back to music after that. Not about to buy Rick furniture, though, I tap out at wardrobe.

    Faust, that's definitely me. Fashion is an interest of mine but not a main interest. I'm a latecomer to fashion, too young to have known Yohji, too ignorant to have known Helmut/Antwerp 6, and too poor to have worn Hedi. I love it all now, but I can't afford it more mental space than hobby (vs passion) this late in my life.
    That's exactly what I was getting at.
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    Skateboarding influences my life a lot. I have been skating since I was 13. I always wore the same kind of outfit everyday. Every piece I wore was from skate brands.
    As I grew older, my style evolved since I learned about these "SZ designers." However, I still keep that "streetwear" element in my outfit, and BBS garments are always the best for me. I love his fabric treatments, cuts and details. I'm not gonna lie. I'm totally in love with the way he uses shoelaces as the belts for his pants (just like all the skaters do haha)
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    Quote Originally Posted by skavant View Post
    Skateboarding influences my life a lot. I have been skating since I was 13. I always wore the same kind of outfit everyday. Every piece I wore was from skate brands.
    As I grew older, my style evolved since I learned about these "SZ designers." However, I still keep that "streetwear" element in my outfit, and BBS garments are always the best for me. I love his fabric treatments, cuts and details. I'm not gonna lie. I'm totally in love with the way he uses shoelaces as the belts for his pants (just like all the skaters do haha)
    Same here been skating for almost 12 years now. Very interesting how skate culture and fashion culture integration is at an all time high right now. From both perspectives the the cross over could seem fake or corny. From my perspective its nice to be able to integrate some pieces from skate brands that are made at a higher quality (and less loud) with pieces external to that world. It's funny seeing people like Gosha cashing in on a look and lifestyle at least 20 years old. Skateboarding is also a very style driven activity which is why I was drawn to clothing. Clothing for me is not necessarily as much about technical wizardry as execution. You can have the craziest, most expensive clothing in the world but if you wear it like a clown you aren't making it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
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    After reading through this thread and talking to a number of my friends, I feel like the aughts were split a few ways for the people around me with age being the key distinguisher:

    1) the Helmut, Cloak, Raf, Ann, etc. glory days
    2) the euro/denim explosion (Diesel, Energie, G-Star) tempered with their high end counterparts (D&G, DSquared, etc.)
    3) Hedi-mania!

    I definitely fell into the latter two and as my style evolved and as the decade wore on, I pined a very clear brit-rock meets punk silhouette as a result, though my wallet left me on the more contemporary side of it.

    Shortly after Hedi punched out was around the time that Rick started to get my attention and while I kept up with Julius, Ann, Damir, and the like for a number of years, it wasn't until the past few years that I've had the finances and sense of identity to really take on a style and wardrobe that is largely composed of Rick, Boris, Plokhov, and Julius peppered with some Slimane basics.
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    Do you guys shop for who you are or who you would like to be? Like who I am right now I feel is well represented by my current wardrobe, but who I would like to be involves more Soloist. Like maybe my idea of that label is for someone who is an outsider, but very at ease with it or finds comfort and peace in it, vs Rick, where there's a certain amount of aggression and "back off" to the look. But at the same time, I don't want to spread myself too thin across aesthetics.
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