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**Faust** · 02-12-2007, 08:04 PM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="laika"]

Yes, I think it fits in very well with your line of thought. The Duras is an interesting counterpoint--it is almost the exact opposite!

BTW, do you want to change the name of this thread--perhaps other people would contribute as well.

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Ok.

**Buckwheat** · 02-13-2007, 01:06 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="Faust"][quote user="laika"]

Wim Wenders, on first wearing clothes by Yamamoto.

"I had bought a shirt and a jacket. You know the sensation you feel when you put on a new garment: you look in the mirror, happy and a bit excited in your new skin. But wearing that shirt and jacket I was different; they were old and new at the same time. In the mirror I was myself, undoubtedly, only I was more myself than before. I had a strange sensation...yes, I was wearing the shirt par excellence and the perfect jacket, and beneath them I was myself. I felt protected, like a knight in his armor."


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This quote is priceless. I've watched it over and over again.

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Are you both talking about this documentary "notebook on cities and clothes"?

As much as I admire Yohji and his works....I still haven't seen this documentary.[:#] But I just bought this DVD for $7 the other day and I can't wait to watch it.

**Avantster** · 02-13-2007, 06:52 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

Beautiful quotes, laika.

Buckwheat, I need to watch that documentary too. Where did you buy it?




Yohji Yamamoto in conversation with Laurence Benaim.
"I prefer to show the hidden body. I'm a man but I think that was is on the inside is the sexiest. If this season I have suggested a symbolic body by using pleats and tucks to indicate the figure, the bosom, the side, the back, it is because I don't like to show the body ostentatiously. I prefer to dream. In Japan, all the girls wear low slung trousers. When I see how important the body has become, the triumph of cosmetics and plastic surgery, I wonder if clothes are still necessary."

**laika** · 02-13-2007, 09:25 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

Buckwheat, yes, that's the one.

Faust, thanks for changing the title

Avanster, that's a great addition to the thread! Really lovely.

**Buckwheat** · 02-13-2007, 10:46 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="Avantster"]

Beautiful quotes, laika.

Buckwheat, I need to watch that documentary too. Where did you buy it?



Yohji Yamamoto in conversation with Laurence Benaim.
"I prefer to show the hidden body. I'm a man but I think that was is on the inside is the sexiest. If this season I have suggested a symbolic body by using pleats and tucks to indicate the figure, the bosom, the side, the back, it is because I don't like to show the body ostentatiously. I prefer to dream. In Japan, all the girls wear low slung trousers. When I see how important the body has become, the triumph of cosmetics and plastic surgery, I wonder if clothes are still necessary."


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Avantster - I bought the DVD on ebay. It's brand new too.

thanks for the quote BTW.

**Faust** · 02-13-2007, 10:48 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

Avanster, do you have Netflix in Australia? You can just rent it.

**Avantster** · 02-13-2007, 09:53 PM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

Unfortunately no - there are a few other similar services here in Aus albeit less titles and less reliable. Might just look out for ebay, thanks guys!

**laika** · 02-14-2007, 10:11 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

More Yohji:


"I think perfection is ugly. Somewhere in the things humans make, I
want so see scars, failure, disorder, distortion. If I can feel those
things in work by others, then I like them. Perfection is a kind of
order, like overall harmony and so on... They are things someone forces
on to a thing. A free human being does not desire such things. And yet
I get the feeling there are a lot of women who do not seek freedom;
women who wear symmetrical clothes."

**laika** · 02-16-2007, 08:33 PM

Re: Quotes about Fashion and Clothing

Not about fashion, but I've always thought this was an amazing observation about clothing, war, and the built environment. I used it in my prospectus. [8-|]

Orwell, writing about the appearance of Barcelona a few months after the start of the revolution.




"It was the first time that I
had ever been in a town where the
working class was in the saddle. Practically every building of any size had
been seized by the workers and was draped with red flags or with the red and black flag of the Anarchists; every wall was scrawled with the hammer
and sickle and with the initials of the revolutionary parties; almost every
church had been gutted and its images burnt?? The revolutionary posters were everywhere,
flaming from the walls in clean reds and blues that made the few remaining advertisements
look like daubs of mud. Down the Ramblas, the wide central artery of the town
where crowds of people streamed constantly to and fro, the loudspeakers were
bellowing revolutionary songs all day and far into the night. And it was the
aspect of the crowds that was the queerest thing of all. In outward appearance
it was a town in which the wealthy classes had practically ceased to exist.
Except for a small number of women and foreigners there were no 'well-dressed'
people at all. Practically everyone wore rough working-class clothes, or blue
overalls, or some variant of the militia uniform. All this was queer and
moving. There was much in it that I did not understand, in some ways I did not
even like it, but I recognized it immediately as a state of affairs worth
fighting for."

**darkanimal** · 02-17-2007, 12:20 AM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="laika"]

More Yohji:


"I think perfection is ugly. Somewhere in the things humans make, I
want so see scars, failure, disorder, distortion. If I can feel those
things in work by others, then I like them. Perfection is a kind of
order, like overall harmony and so on... They are things someone forces
on to a thing. A free human being does not desire such things. And yet
I get the feeling there are a lot of women who do not seek freedom;
women who wear symmetrical clothes."


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Very nice, I like things to be slightly off. I also like it when designers use weird looking models.

**Faust** · 02-17-2007, 03:29 PM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="Faust"][quote user="laika"]

Wim Wenders, on first wearing clothes by Yamamoto.

"I had bought a shirt and a jacket. You know the sensation you feel when you put on a new garment: you look in the mirror, happy and a bit excited in your new skin. But wearing that shirt and jacket I was different; they were old and new at the same time. In the mirror I was myself, undoubtedly, only I was more myself than before. I had a strange sensation...yes, I was wearing the shirt par excellence and the perfect jacket, and beneath them I was myself. I felt protected, like a knight in his armor."


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This quote is priceless. I've watched it over and over again.

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This is now incorporated into my thesis - page 6. Thank you for taking the trouble typing it out.

**laika** · 02-17-2007, 07:40 PM

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You are most welcome. I can't get it out of my head either, to be honest.

And congrats on reaching page 6! I can't wait to hear about it.

**Faust** · 02-17-2007, 10:53 PM

Re: Quotes about Fashion

[quote user="laika"]

You are most welcome. I can't get it out of my head either, to be honest.

And congrats on reaching page 6! I can't wait to hear about it.

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Since then I'm on page 8 [:P] Need to do research on Faust now [;)]

**PrinceOfCats** · 02-20-2007, 08:40 PM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="laika"]

Marguerite Duras, from The Lover

"I tried on that hat, just for a laugh; I looked at myself in the shop mirror and saw, under that man's hat, the awkward skinniness of my frame, defect of my age, become something else. It ceased to be a crude and fatal fact of nature and became the opposite, a choice running counter to nature, a choice of spirit. I see myself as another, as another would see me, from the outside, available to all, exposed to everyone's gaze, let loose in a circuit of cities, streets and pleasures. I buy the hat. I shall wear it always. Now that I own a hat that completely transforms me, I'll never abandon it."[/quote]

Off-topic but it'sslightlyhilarious how the way Marguerite Duras dresses has become its own cottage industry in France. One of the few alcoholic OAPs to be a fashion icon.

**PrinceOfCats** · 02-20-2007, 08:43 PM

Re: Fernando Pessoa--The Green Dress

[quote user="laika"]

Marguerite Duras, from The Lover

"I tried on that hat, just for a laugh; I looked at myself in the shop mirror and saw, under that man's hat, the awkward skinniness of my frame, defect of my age, become something else. It ceased to be a crude and fatal fact of nature and became the opposite, a choice running counter to nature, a choice of spirit. I see myself as another, as another would see me, from the outside, available to all, exposed to everyone's gaze, let loose in a circuit of cities, streets and pleasures. I buy the hat. I shall wear it always. Now that I own a hat that completely transforms me, I'll never abandon it."[/quote]

Off-topic but it'sslightlyhilarious how the way Marguerite Duras dressedbecameits own cottage industry in France. One of the few alcoholic OAPs to be a fashion icon.

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