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  • Johnny
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1923

    #91
    Re: Your Style Philosophy

    this is all Becoming-Intense's fault! anyway his post was a load of bollocks....the notion of which incidentally and somewhat ironicallydebunks his mulitudes theory as differenciating female and male sexuality!

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    • Faust
      kitsch killer
      • Sep 2006
      • 37849

      #92
      Re: Your Style Philosophy



      [quote user="Johnny"]this is all Becoming-Intense's fault! anyway his post was a load of bollocks....the notion of which incidentally and somewhat ironicallydebunks his mulitudes theory as differenciating female and male sexuality![/quote]



      what do you mean by bollocks there?! [86]

      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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      • Johnny
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 1923

        #93
        Re: Your Style Philosophy



        maybe itsa UK thing: "bollocks" means "load of nonsense"

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        • Faust
          kitsch killer
          • Sep 2006
          • 37849

          #94
          Re: Your Style Philosophy

          [quote user="Johnny"]

          maybe itsa UK thing: "bollocks" means "load of nonsense"



          [/quote]



          i know, i was making a joke on the word play (bollocks as male genitalia).

          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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          • jak1
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 108

            #95
            Re: dilemna

            was not sure what thread to put it in?.. . the issue seemed like philosophy to me? where should I post stuff like this in the future?

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            • Faust
              kitsch killer
              • Sep 2006
              • 37849

              #96
              Re: dilemna

              there is a help finding thread in the shopping section.
              Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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              • BECOMING-INTENSE
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1868

                #97
                Re: dilemna

                [quote user="laika"]

                [quote user="BECOMING-INTENSE"]




                One thing I do find problematic, is the distinction you create between art and design,
                "a
                sense of finality or completeness to the whole", because, as I've
                elaborated on somewhere else, there is a difference in kind between the
                materials that support a work of art, such as paint, canvas, film,
                stone, sound-waves, textiles etc. and the work itself. Art only
                attempts to fashion a material object, having a finite duration, so as
                to create being of sensation, which is preserved in itself for an
                eternity that coexists with the short duration of material. This bloc
                of sensations, standing up alone or positing itself, contains the
                working, sensation, and forces of the work. Even with the suggested
                finite materials that supports paintings, sculptures, etc., they can
                indeed become "a very real and dynamic sense of continuous potential
                and unfolding".



                [/quote]



                I anticipated you would catch me on this, which is why I used "work
                of Art," in the sense of institutionally-defined object, rather than
                art as practice or process. I agree with you that individual art
                objects can have this potential, but i think the categorization by
                institutions of art as "Art," undermines the extent to which works can
                actually be experienced in the way you are describing. There is
                something about design, imo, which resists this categorization, perhaps
                because of its intimacy with the body.



                But I am very OT. [:$]



                I
                do like that Judith quote a lot, by the way, although I fear you could
                repeat it endlessly and have it fall on deaf ears....[79]



                [/quote]



                Yes in that sense, attaching the "in the sense of institutional-defined object", I think we're on the same page,

                because in the moment that the work of art reterritorializes itself on these categories or discourses,

                we're indeed undermining the work of art's potential to cut a cross [51] ...





                [quote user="Johnny"]this is all Becoming-Intense's fault! anyway his
                post was a load of bollocks....the notion of which incidentally and
                somewhat ironicallydebunks his mulitudes theory as differenciating
                female and male sexuality![/quote]



                You're starting to sound like Sokal! [74]



                One must listen(read) carefully before opens ones mouth,

                and importantly pay attention to details ...



                Even the text can be multiple!



                "hard work and humility"(Laika)



                And what on earth made you come and make this post here?

                The actual post you're referring to is not insight and the

                subject of your post has nothing to do with this thread at all!

                One can only imagine and assume [79] ...



                Johnny if you really want to discuss this,

                please go to the appropriate thread and post, and
                please bring some arguments with you, or else it's
                gonna get really tiresome rather quickly and embarrassing,
                not to say!

                [<:o)]
                Are you afraid of women, Doctor?
                Of course.

                www.becomingmads.com

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                • laika
                  moderator
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 3785

                  #98
                  Re: dilemna



                  Mads, you are my knight in fluid, flowing and shining armour! [64]



                  I think Johnny was trying to break up the tense mood by being funny rather than challenging, and his post was quite brilliant in that respect! [74]



                  But I agree wholeheartedly that one needs to bring some arguments to the table to have any sort of serious discussion, and your post certainly deserves that. [51]

                  ...I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.

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                  • BECOMING-INTENSE
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1868

                    #99
                    Re: Your Style Philosophy



                    Yes, and I might just have achieved the opposite, bringing the tension back [74] ...



                    [51]



                    But to somehow bring this back on topic ...



                    [quote user="voltaire's anti-defamation league"]a brooding goth poet boy. like that bitch rimbraud.
                    [/quote]



                    Yes, you're indeed a poet of huge proportions, but ...



                    There's just one thing, Dude.
                    And what's that?
                    Do you have to use so many cuss words?
                    What the fuck you talking about?
                    Okay, Dude. Have it your way.



                    Rimbaud, Bitch!



                    [74]

                    Are you afraid of women, Doctor?
                    Of course.

                    www.becomingmads.com

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                    • Faust
                      kitsch killer
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 37849

                      Re: Your Style Philosophy

                      You forgot to sign the poem, becoming-intense. i'll fix that in a second, don't worry.
                      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                      StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                      • BECOMING-INTENSE
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1868

                        Re: Your Style Philosophy

                        You are fast, poor Rimbaud the things he is beeing accounted for! [70] ... [86]
                        Are you afraid of women, Doctor?
                        Of course.

                        www.becomingmads.com

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                        • sbw4224
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 571

                          Re: Your Style Philosophy



                          In the past year and a half my personal style has taken some twists and turns, but the thing I could never get away from was being uncomfortable in suburban or rural settings. I guess the power of location and its effect on ease of style took a while for me to realize.



                          Sadly, I don't think that many of the designers we follow on SZ work for me (with the exception of Yohji). While I tried going down a different route I never felt completely comfortable in certain clothes, whereas my recent path seems to make complete sense to me.



                          I give you guys props who don't live in cities but still maintain a more "avant-garde" profile. I tried but couldn't fully commit.

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                          • pbt
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 159

                            Re: Your Style Philosophy

                            I myself follow the SZ law of dressing mainly in black, and, in order to invoke that discursive formation as a naturalized foundational premise that subsequently legitimates that law's own regulatory hegemony, I frequently peruse the pages of SZ.

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                            • Uncontrol
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 249

                              Re: Your Style Philosophy



                              [quote user="pbt"]I myself follow the SZ law of dressing mainly in black, and, in order to invoke that discursive formation as a naturalized foundational premise that subsequently legitimates that law's own regulatory hegemony, I frequently peruse the pages of SZ.
                              [/quote]



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                              • Faust
                                kitsch killer
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 37849

                                Re: Your Style Philosophy

                                [quote user="Uncontrol"]

                                [quote user="pbt"]I myself follow the SZ law of dressing mainly in black, and, in order to invoke that discursive formation as a naturalized foundational premise that subsequently legitimates that law's own regulatory hegemony, I frequently peruse the pages of SZ.
                                [/quote]



                                this post brought to you by thesaurus.com



                                [/quote]



                                BECOMING-INTENSE would approve.

                                Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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