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    LeBron James Vogue cover criticized

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    NEW YORK - When Vogue announced its April cover starring LeBron James and Gisele Bundchen, the magazine noted with some fanfare that James was the first black man to grace its cover.





    But the image is stirring up controversy, with some commentators
    decrying the photo as perpetuating racial stereotypes. James strikes
    what some see as a gorilla-like pose, baring his teeth, with one hand
    dribbling a ball and the other around Bundchen?s tiny waist.




    It?s an image some have likened to ?King Kong? and Fay Wray.




    ?It conjures up this idea of a dangerous black man,? said Tamara Walker, 29, of Philadelphia.




    Photographer Annie Leibovitz shot the 6-foot-9 NBA star and the
    5-foot-11 Brazilian model for the cover and an inside spread. Vogue
    spokesman Patrick O?Connell said the magazine ?sought to celebrate two
    superstars at the top of their game? for the magazine?s annual issue
    devoted to size and shape.











    ?We think Lebron James and Gisele Bundchen look beautiful together and we are honored to have them on the cover,? he said.




    James told The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer he was pleased with the cover, saying he was ?just showing a little emotion.?




    ?Everything my name is on is going to be criticized in a good way or
    bad way,? James told the paper. ?Who cares what anyone says??




    But magazine analyst Samir Husni believes the photo was deliberately
    provocative, adding that it ?screams King Kong.? Considering Vogue?s
    influential history, he said, covers are not something that the
    magazine does in a rush.




    ?So when you have a cover that reminds people of King Kong and
    brings those stereotypes to the front, black man wanting white woman,
    it?s not innocent,? he said.




    O?Connell, the Vogue spokesman, declined further comment.




    In a column at ESPN.com, Jemele Hill called the cover ?memorable for
    all the wrong reasons.? But she said in an interview that the image is
    not unusual ? white athletes are generally portrayed smiling or
    laughing, while black sports figures are given a ?beastly sort of vibe.?




    For example, former NBA star Charles Barkley was depicted breaking
    free of neck and wrist shackles on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
    Dennis Rodman graced the cover of Rolling Stone with horns poking out
    of his forehead and his red tongue hanging out.




    Images of black male athletes as aggressive and threatening
    ?reinforce the criminalization of black men,? said Damion Thomas,
    assistant professor in the Department of Kinesiology at University of
    Maryland.




    But others say the image show James? game face ? nothing more. And they note that Bundchen hardly looks frightened.




    ?James is a huge, black beautiful masculine statue and Gisele is a
    feminine, sexy gorgeous doll,? said Christa Thomas, 36, a black account
    supervisor in Los Angeles.




    ?I didn?t see any kind of racist overtone to it,? she said. ?I still
    don?t. I think there is such a hypersensitivity to race still in this
    country.?




    Husni said it is too soon to know how the magazine is selling,
    though the controversy could increase sales as people rush out to get a
    ?collector?s edition.?




    If nothing else, Walker said the cover underscores the need for a more diverse workplace.




    ?If more people of color worked for Vogue in positions of editorial
    authority, perhaps someone in the room might have been able to read the
    image the way so many of us are reading it now, and had the power to do
    something about it,? she said.

    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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    What do you think, Zam?
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    [quote user="Faust"]What do you think, Zam?
    [/quote]







    My Blackness



    My sadness



    Being despised for my darkness



    Enslaved????



    I am still brave



    Bloodied but unbowed



    Standing tall to the grave





    Taken my opium



    Now I am numb



    Fighting winless



    Being wise but dumb





    I am mine enemy



    My enemy in me



    Smokescreen



    Distortion of Color



    Human reality





    Sameness within



    Different Color without



    All having one heart



    But a different mouth





    Argent?monaie



    The great equalizer



    Separating friends????..



    Bringing enemies together





    Black??.white!!!



    No green conquers all



    Having, wanting



    Creates a transparent wall?????..

    my thoughts..........



    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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    So, what do you think, Zam?! Haha, just kidding [66]



    I noticed the cover on the newsstand, and I knew right off the bat that it will stir up some shit. People forget that it's Vogue, and thus absolutely irrelevant in a socio-political context (although I may be wrong here, I don't know). I am sure Ms. Wintour was happy to stir shit up - she's so good at it. I am surprised that this is all they've got. If I was a black political leader, I would point out that they could've put someone more fitting than James, and that this cover perpetuates the myth that the only two ways out of the ghetto is playing ball and rapping. Nike and MTV aren't the only avenues to success...

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    Personally, I found the cover playful and think the media, once again, is make much to do about nothing. LeBron is just a kid and he is acting like a kid on the cover.

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    So, what do you think, Zam?! Haha, just kidding [66]




    I noticed the cover on the newsstand, and I knew right off the bat that it will stir up some shit. People forget that it's Vogue, and thus absolutely irrelevant in a socio-political context (although I may be wrong here, I don't know). I am sure Ms. Wintour was happy to stir shit up - she's so good at it. I am surprised that this is all they've got. If I was a black political leader, I would point out that they could've put someone more fitting than James, and that this cover perpetuates the myth that the only two ways out of the ghetto is playing ball and rapping. Nike and MTV aren't the only avenues to success...




    [/quote]




    I havent read vogue in years, or any other fashion magazine for that matter ,




    I find them at this point to be utterly irrelevant, at a certain point i become tired of sameness, which most of these magazines seem to be suffering from.




    I did not grow up in the USA, i moved here a fully grown man (23) so the experiences of blacks in america are something i can only understand intellectually. I knew nothing about the Civil Rights movement, Luther, Rosa Parks or any of the Historical and political factsof blacks in america until i moved here. that being said I know racism existI see it everyday, but classismis the closest thing we have in Jamaica.........which can be easily overcome by Good Manners ands Socio-economic advancement




    but yea, the stereotype that is perpetuated is either ball it out or (w)rap it out......... which is the very reason why some of my friends were shocked last week when i said i wanted Barak Obama to win the presidency.... reason being that there needs to be a strong counterforce to the kind of image promoted by James, iverson , JayZ etc.




    i want there to be an elimination of the excuse that we subconsciously buy into in our failure to develop ourselves socially, intellectually and spiritually. while vracism does exist and racial stereotypes are indeed promoted, to a large part of the problem ...............we are our own enemies, the enemy in me.........





    What do you think about the poem?

    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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    I like the poem, Zam. [64] I don't know what Argent-monaie means though.
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    [quote user="Faust"]I like the poem, Zam. [64] I don't know what Argent-monaie means though.
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    I wrote the poem Just after i saw your post asking me what i think.




    As i was writing i wanted an interesting way of saying money.........my friend/ assistant Mel (who is french) was next to me so i asked her how to say money in french




    Argent is the general (formal) word and Monaie is the informal (as in coins or change)

    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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    argent=money [75]




    edit: zam, you wrote that!? Hmmm, I need to go see this cover before I comment more.....[51]



    ...I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.

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    [quote user="laika"]

    argent=money [75]





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    duh! isn't it d'argent?

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    lol, sorry Faust, I misunderstood your question. [:$]


    ...I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.

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    [quote user="laika"]

    lol, sorry Faust, I misunderstood your question. [:$]




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    no, i was duh-ing myself. i was never good at french. i tried one year and college and i can report that i failed completely.

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    [quote user="laika"]


    argent=money [75]




    edit: zam, you wrote that!? Hmmm, I need to go see this cover before I comment more.....[51]




    Yes i did, thats one of my other talents, that no one (except a few friends and family members) knows about. I think i have written about 150-200 that i have laying around and stored on my computer. Its not something that i can do and the drop of a hat...............its usually in reaction to something (an experience) that i get an inspiration and then i write.



    [/quote]
    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
    .................................................. .......................


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    Zamb, very nice. I am a writer myself and found your work beautiful.

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    Zamb, great poem! I've seen the cover but honestly had no real reaction. Maybe it's just me but all I saw was a model and basketball player, not a black man and a white woman.

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    [quote user="jay"]Zamb, very nice. I am a writer myself and found your work beautiful.[/quote]






    Co-sign.[73]





    I haven't seen the cover so I cannot comment, but as far as race and such things go, I only hope that this forum maintains the cool grace and intelligent decorum that it has shown when discussing raceas it has when discussingother controversialtopics, like shorts on grown men over the age of 20.[:O]





    Speaking of Obama, I think his speech on race was brilliant. It spoke on black AND white perspectives (not to mention asian, gay, hispanic, etc.), which is important.




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    [quote user="Serendipper"]


    [quote user="jay"]Zamb, very nice. I am a writer myself and found your work beautiful.[/quote]






    Co-sign.[73]





    I haven't seen the cover so I cannot comment, but as far as race and such things go, I only hope that this forum maintains the cool grace and intelligent decorum that it has shown when discussing raceas it has when discussingother controversialtopics, like shorts on grown men over the age of 20.[:O]





    Speaking of Obama, I think his speech on race was brilliant. It spoke on black AND white perspectives (not to mention asian, gay, hispanic, etc.), which is important.






    [/quote]




    I generally do not talk politics but I also found Obamas speach brilliant.


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    I honestly don't think this cover would have been nearly as big a deal if Vogue didn't have a reputation for staying away from black models... but then again, there has also been a backlash in the model industry about that, so it can hardly be seen as exclusively Vogue.

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    I saw the cover and thought nothing of it. Then I read about the
    controversy on The JC Report( Jason Campbell is a black man I recently found out) and I looked again at the cover and OK I
    get it
    only cause it was pointed it out. I still don't mind it but
    those that do probably are right to a degree. But if it were a white man doing
    the same thing there would be no issue, just a athlete showing a
    little emotion. I am one the most sensitive people around when it comes
    to racism in America towards black people and I am not upset. I just thought why James? But everyone is talking about it and I'm sure that has helped sales of this great "first" for Vogue. I wonder what Andre thinks.



    Lets be frank, dark black people still remind others and blacks themselves of apes. Is that a racist stereotype? You bet it is. I wish it were possible that just by being mild mannered, educated, and intelligent we could be considered equal to one another as humans in this country and the world for that matter. But we are brainwashed by those that have an agenda to keep us distracted from seeing what is really going on
    as our world is being changed into something else..




    By the way isnt it crazy we still have black firsts and women firsts in this country. But we are still a young country. I'm sure in another 200 years all that will be behind us.



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    [quote user="clay"] ..



    By the way isnt it crazy we still have black firsts and women firsts in this country. But we are still a young country. I'm sure in another 200 years all that will be behind us.




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    ...or in another 200 days.[66]





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