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    Default Junya Watanabe Mens S/S 09 - Paris



    Really boring. Posting only a few pictures, because it's basically the same couple of looks repeated ad nauseaum.











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    oopsie daisy. let me see if i can merge our threads. if i knew, i certainly wouldn't bother!
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    what makes it even more boring is the fact Junya has been on THIS kick for the past what, 3 seasons now including this one? Just seems to have mixed a few elements throughout each of them to combine it into a summary. He needs to move on....

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    I agree with matthew but overall this is my favorite of the collections like this its cleaner and seems easier to wear, I'm loving those contrast color button ups and the shorts and slimmer denim look great



    although i'm not really feeling the patterned lined rolled up jeans


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    i love the rolled jeans 50's greaser looks, the denim looks much better this season.

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    Holy crap, how long did this show take?

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    [quote user="ean"]Holy crap, how long did this show take?[/quote]



    way too long, considering that it's three looks in different colors.

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    I liked it when he first started on his dandy kick, but 3 seasons later this is getting ridiculousAND this is the most boring of the 3. I'm usually not crazy about "theme" designers, but I think JW is better when he has a theme ie. Bikers, Taxi Driver or even jersey fabric asin his last women's collection. His strength seems to be in doing infinite and interesting permutations of one single idea, but when he's been riffing on the same idea for 3 seasons now, it gets really old.

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    This past spring junya was the best and fall appears to be pretty good but I think this is banking on prior success => not a good idea.

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    I guess a lot of the jackets are reversible. The navy blazer with gingham lapels becomes a gingham jacket with navy lapels. That's kind of cool.

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    After reading the ID article on Junya, I think it kind of obviates him from having to fit into the molds of what a fashion designer should be. In the article he talked about being asked to do menswear by Rei. He admitted to not knowing a thing about menswear. His collections are an effort to learn how to design menswear. This explains a lot of the deconstruction that he does. It also explains the collaborations he does with very 'classic' menswear brands (brooks bros., Levis, Nike, etc.). I find this a humble and interesting approach to design.



    That being said, perhaps he is honing in on a particular thing? I, for one, like it. I agree that it's getting repetitive. However, if he is getting comfortable with a particular thing and is seeking to make it his own, then wouldn't he need a little repetition to make his point known? Of course a lot of this is presumptuous on my part.



    I think there's a lot of room for menswear in this department: reinvented classic british/american menswear looks. Although many on this board seem to detest this aesthetic, I feel that it will always be relevant. I feel that it's very difficult to make this stuff look fresh, and I feel that Junya has done a good job at it.


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    [quote user="soultek"]

    After reading the ID article on Junya, I think it kind of obviates him from having to fit into the molds of what a fashion designer should be. In the article he talked about being asked to do menswear by Rei. He admitted to not knowing a thing about menswear. His collections are an effort to learn how to design menswear. This explains a lot of the deconstruction that he does. It also explains the collaborations he does with very 'classic' menswear brands (brooks bros., Levis, Nike, etc.). I find this a humble and interesting approach to design.



    That being said, perhaps he is honing in on a particular thing? I, for one, like it. I agree that it's getting repetitive. However, if he is getting comfortable with a particular thing and is seeking to make it his own, then wouldn't he need a little repetition to make his point known? Of course a lot of this is presumptuous on my part.



    I think there's a lot of room for menswear in this department: reinvented classic british/american menswear looks. Although many on this board seem to detest this aesthetic, I feel that it will always be relevant. I feel that it's very difficult to make this stuff look fresh, and I feel that Junya has done a good job at it.



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    That is true. There is only problem, in my opinion, with being "repetitive" - you have to first develop a clear sartorial vocabulary for that, they way Yohji and Ann has done. Junya Man premise #1 (reinterpretation of existing classics) seems to largely (not fully) preclude him from doing that. He definitely has certain elements there - reversibility, de/reconstruction, just not enough to immediately snap your fingers at seeing something without a label and say "Oh, that's Junya!" Maybe now he is in a bit of a rot because he's referenced pretty much everything there is to reference - the suit, the military, the biker, the sportswear. What else is left? I'd like to see him do an astronaut, that maybe cool actually.

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    [quote user="Faust"]

    That is true. There is only problem, in my opinion, with being "repetitive" - you have to first develop a clear sartorial vocabulary for that, they way Yohji and Ann has done. Junya Man premise #1 (reinterpretation of existing classics) seems to largely (not fully) preclude him from doing that. He definitely has certain elements there - reversibility, de/reconstruction, just not enough to immediately snap your fingers at seeing something without a label and say "Oh, that's Junya!" Maybe now he is in a bit of a rot because he's referenced pretty much everything there is to reference - the suit, the military, the biker, the sportswear. What else is left? I'd like to see him do an astronaut, that maybe cool actually.



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    My initial reply was a bit defensive of Junya, but these two sentences sum up my thoughts very well.



    I feel like his line is like the prequel to a real collection. He's taking us on a ride of his own experimentation and learning. From an art/design perspective, I very much think this is cool. However I have misgivings when it comes to commerce. Ultimately I think his approach is inspiring enough to justify a niche in the fashion world (or at least under CDG's wing), but maybe I'm being too generous.



    I disagree with you in that I think there could be inklings of a Junya-esque vocabulary from these three collections, I suppose it remains to be seen in the coming years.




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    some good points on this page...well I think at this point, even though Junya's menswear only has that core of pushing on existing basics/aesthetics and putting his deconstructionist spin on it....when in a clothing store, I think it's pretty easy to spot where the Junya's at. There is something quite rough and unfinished about his work, his choice of fabrics for mens...while I do not 'detest' this look presented here, I think Junya's been pushing it too long and one need not dress up in Junya to achieve the dandy-fied effect. As much as it gets hated on, the Sartorialist has done quite a good job of capturing street people who pull looks like this off, one can easily sub in a more tailored jacket, maybe add a few quirky details here and there in the styling, a pair of well worn APCs and some gentlemanly shoes and you have it.





    the denims are getting praised it seems...best believe they are gonna be priced out of this world, even in Japan.


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    [quote user="Real Real"]I guess a lot of the jackets are reversible. The navy blazer with gingham lapels becomes a gingham jacket with navy lapels. That's kind of cool.[/quote]





    yeah it's like a Junya-fied take on Ben Sherman, Band of Outsiders (i know BoO not the first to do this look but its the first name coming to mind), and Paul Smith. Many of these looks seem like something Styleforum member Get Smart would be comfortable in.


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    [quote user="soultek"]

    My initial reply was a bit defensive of Junya, but these two sentences sum up my thoughts very well.



    I feel like his line is like the prequel to a real collection. He's taking us on a ride of his own experimentation and learning. From an art/design perspective, I very much think this is cool. However I have misgivings when it comes to commerce. Ultimately I think his approach is inspiring enough to justify a niche in the fashion world (or at least under CDG's wing), but maybe I'm being too generous.



    I disagree with you in that I think there could be inklings of a Junya-esque vocabulary from these three collections, I suppose it remains to be seen in the coming years.



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    Hrmm, I do feel the same way, but if Junya menswear will only be things that Junya would wear himself, how much further can it really go?

    let us raise a toast to ancient cotton, rotten voile, gloomy silk, slick carf, decayed goat, inflamed ram, sooty nelton, stifling silk, lazy sheep, bone-dry broad & skinny baffalo.

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    Extremely uninteresting! I can't fix on any item.



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