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  • eleves
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 524

    Originally posted by deltapie View Post
    Vikings has to be the best program the History channel has ever put out, and its not even historically accurate (granted most of their crap isn't). It's been an outstandingly bloody second season.
    I JUST found out that it's a drama! This whole time I thought it was a documentary series studying Vikings!
    Originally posted by Faust
    HOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.

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    • Picasso
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 108

      Originally posted by 550BC View Post
      Haha! Maybe I say that because I haven't watched season 4 yet...need to make time for that, but for now Vikings is so good! Of course GoT got a deeper storyline. If you like GoT and Spartacus = Vikings is your thing

      Vikings shits all over Spartacus Spartacus was a porno with slow-mo. Horrible. I enjoy Vikings and can appreciate it, I just don't relate it to GoT. Anyone ever watched The Wire in full? had a argument with my friend as to which is better. Breaking Bad or The Wire.

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      • 550BC
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 783

        Originally posted by Picasso View Post
        Vikings shits all over Spartacus Spartacus was a porno with slow-mo. Horrible. I enjoy Vikings and can appreciate it, I just don't relate it to GoT. Anyone ever watched The Wire in full? had a argument with my friend as to which is better. Breaking Bad or The Wire.
        I liked Spartacus
        a fish out of water dies

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        • Faust
          kitsch killer
          • Sep 2006
          • 37852

          Originally posted by Picasso View Post
          Vikings shits all over Spartacus Spartacus was a porno with slow-mo. Horrible. I enjoy Vikings and can appreciate it, I just don't relate it to GoT. Anyone ever watched The Wire in full? had a argument with my friend as to which is better. Breaking Bad or The Wire.
          LOL, there is no argument. The Wire is the greatest show made in history of TV - nothing comes even close to it. It's more than TV - like all good fiction it depicts reality better than nonfiction could.
          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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          • djt00
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 51

            Originally posted by Faust View Post
            LOL, there is no argument. The Wire is the greatest show made in history of TV - nothing comes even close to it. It's more than TV - like all good fiction it depicts reality better than nonfiction could.
            I loved the wire. One of the best shows ever, no doubt. HBO has had so many good shows over the years.

            At the moment HBO's Boardwalk Empire and Game of Thrones are my fav shows. In my opinion Game of Thrones is the best show ever so far. Some of the scenes are unbelievable, as good as anything I've ever seen on tv. Daenerys Targaryen

            Homeland is pretty good, if you don't watch it already. Also, 24: Live another day will be premiering on Fox on May 5.

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            • apathy!
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2014
              • 393

              Originally posted by Faust View Post
              LOL, there is no argument. The Wire is the greatest show made in history of TV - nothing comes even close to it. It's more than TV - like all good fiction it depicts reality better than nonfiction could.
              I agree completely. Now anything I watch just seems so weak by comparison. I thought that the laste season got a little silly though.

              I'm surprised by how popular GOT is on here. I watched the first two and a half seasons and I felt like it was just violence and sex wrapped up in fantasy for teenagers. The characters and story really did draw me in though.

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              • SuE
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 173

                'Best TV show' is a toss up between The Wire and Treme imo. Treme dissects New Orleans and its culture so well.

                GoT is pulpy smut, but it's for adults not teenagers (the teens equivalent is True Blood lol)
                One should either be a work of art, or wear a work of art ― Oscar Wilde

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                • viv1984viv
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 194

                  SuE - completely agree. But i'd plump for The Wire. GoT is trash imo.

                  House of Cards kept me very entertained for a while. Certainly worth a look.

                  One thing I look for in a series is scope that is bigger than a film could ever offer, not a series of cliffhangers and twists (a problem that Homeland quickly ran into) but an overall piece that is more than the sum of its parts. The Wire certainly managed this. Soprano's too to a lesser degree. Generally very few shows achieve this and I am disappointed by most. True Detective was a massive disappointment and I agree wholeheartedly with this review - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...urrentPage=all
                  Notes from the Vomitorium - The Nerve Of It -

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                  • Picasso
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 108

                    Boardwalk empire has 1 season left, then it's getting canceled. Crazy

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                    • Faust
                      kitsch killer
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 37852

                      Originally posted by SuE View Post
                      'Best TV show' is a toss up between The Wire and Treme imo. Treme dissects New Orleans and its culture so well.

                      GoT is pulpy smut, but it's for adults not teenagers (the teens equivalent is True Blood lol)
                      Perhaps a moot point, since both are written by David Simon I have not watched Treme, but I will at some point.

                      I like GoT as I like some other quality entertainment that lets me turn down (not off, a bit distinction) my brain and satisfy me aesthetically. I like fairy tales with philosophical underpinnings - here the main one being that in politics everyone will do foul things and die sooner or later.

                      House of Cards quickly deteriorated at the end of season 1 and then some. A senator committing multiple murders - give me a fucking break (talk about a fairy tale, lol).
                      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                      StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                      • endersgame
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1623

                        an idiot abroad
                        mystery science theater 3000
                        vintage twilight zone

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                        • Faust
                          kitsch killer
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 37852

                          Originally posted by viv1984viv View Post
                          SuE - completely agree. But i'd plump for The Wire. GoT is trash imo.

                          House of Cards kept me very entertained for a while. Certainly worth a look.

                          One thing I look for in a series is scope that is bigger than a film could ever offer, not a series of cliffhangers and twists (a problem that Homeland quickly ran into) but an overall piece that is more than the sum of its parts. The Wire certainly managed this. Soprano's too to a lesser degree. Generally very few shows achieve this and I am disappointed by most. True Detective was a massive disappointment and I agree wholeheartedly with this review - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...urrentPage=all
                          Also read that review when it came and I could not disagree with it more. In general I cannot stomach identity politics as a critique of any creative process. The artist does not owe you anything, everything he/she owes is to his/her work, and if the story line demands an obedient housewife, a young black drug dealer, or a money-grubbing Jew, than that's what should be done without any pandering to various interest groups.

                          Having said that, I also felt that True Detective lost steam in the last few episodes. Started out incredibly well though.
                          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                          • upsilonkng
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 874

                            white people love GOT, during the season premiere I went to Trader Joes in silverlake and it was like that scene in 28 days later... i just walked out w/ all the kale I could carry and some japanese beer.

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                            • unwashed
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 694

                              Originally posted by Picasso View Post
                              Boardwalk empire has 1 season left, then it's getting canceled. Crazy
                              Not so crazy, thought season 3 would've been a good ending actually. Have yet to see what season 4 is all about, but heard some negative reviews already. So a bit hesitant to start watching. I'm still curious about what's left to tell about that era since most interesting stuff already happened in S01-to-03.
                              Grailed link

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                              • viv1984viv
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 194

                                Originally posted by Faust View Post
                                Also read that review when it came and I could not disagree with it more. In general I cannot stomach identity politics as a critique of any creative process. The artist does not owe you anything, everything he/she owes is to his/her work, and if the story line demands an obedient housewife, a young black drug dealer, or a money-grubbing Jew, than that's what should be done without any pandering to various interest groups.

                                Having said that, I also felt that True Detective lost steam in the last few episodes. Started out incredibly well though.
                                Nothing should inhibit the creative process, I agree. But if the outcome of the creative process is a flat parade of stereotypical characters such as "an obedient housewife, a young black drug dealer, or a money-grubbing Jew" then perhaps a bit more creativity ought to be put into the project. Because no-one is the crass identity of the above, everyone has a plethora of reasons, drives and wants behind glib caricature - if a creative project cannot render major characters a little deeper than this then it is not very creative imo.

                                I think we'll just have tp agree to disagree here faust!
                                Notes from the Vomitorium - The Nerve Of It -

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