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    Quote Originally Posted by SHYE_POSER View Post
    Trevor Bolangaro used to be the top design guy there, at one time.
    Just to be correct, Trevor Bolognaro isn't a guy, it's Kait Bolognaro and Stuart Trevor, who founded the label and were forced out of it over creative differences with the new (then) part owner.
    They are rather lovely people actually (and my ex neighbours).

    Still, I don't really like Allsaints as it is now. Too big and bloated and unoriginal IMHO.
    Hi. I like your necklace. - It's actually a rape whistle, but the whistle part fell off.

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    Thought I had to contribute...
    I actually happen to have one All Saints piece, that double-breasted coat (forgive the big picture) :



    I am pretty happy with it regarding fit and fabric. Quality has actually nothing to do with Zara or H&M : it is fully lined, fabric is softer than the standard Zara "woolish-plastic" and construction is OK (of course not up to CCPs or ROs standards...or any of "superior" ready-to-wear brand). Unfortunately retail price is still quite exagerated for what it is(in Paris as far as I'm concerned), All Saints is fine when sales are up.
    As mike said, many pieces have terrible fits and the small pieces such as tees, knits (and most of the jackets) are made in crappy fabrics (überthin coton, unexpected see-through effect ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbeuys View Post
    They are rather lovely people actually (and my ex neighbours).
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    Well, don't try to reanimate discussion but:

    I think about how to acquit brands like allsaints (actually - allsaints, cos noone else produse so many rip-offs or adaptations of our beloved RO, Ann and Julius mixed with pop-up trends).

    And I think how to acquit myself, who wears AllSaintsSpitalfields (ASS, honestly) leather jacket, some of knits and some of boots.

    First point: Yes. I want spend money to good crafted items, I have a list of my grails, and I going to. But I have too many other expenditures in my life, so it couldn't happen in recent time.
    Last year I think a lot about clothing aestetics, style in our life and all social aspects of it (thanks both of Szers, esp Faust, for their posts and discussions). And after all I began to change my style, searching right path. And ASS rip-offs were a good starting point for trying something grunge-styled.
    So, actually, it's better than topshops-zara-other massmarket products, and, other hand, price don't bite to much.

    And, exactly, after using ASS stuff I know that next my items 'll be from Julius, VA and InAisce.

    So, ASS is not so bad)

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    i own a twisted seam jumper i bought from all saints a long time ago and it's held up. i'm not saying the quality is good or anything but it's a direct rip off of an sz brand and it was purchased before i knew about sz and the universes that this board delves in to. i wish i could remember who they ripped off because if i recall it was a smaller niche designer, either LUC or individual sentiments. something along those lines. i think the variance of designers they rip off is a bit impressive because someone who works there and studies markets is obviously "in the know" or else they'd just be ripping off rick and calling it a day. i wouldnt buy anything from them at this point because i like to maintain integrity in the clothes i purchase as i see them as more than just things i put on and like to know that i own a piece, albeit a small one, of a designer that truly inspires me. the quality is fine, far beyond h&m if you ask me, but honestly i'd accept no substitute. quality over quantity my friend.

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    re: quality, all saints > rick
    Suede is too Gucci.

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    It caters to victims. Victims who don't know that Rick's 'new' stitching techniques go no further than buying new feet for production machines. if you're buying RO for innovative stitching technique or quality construction I don't know what to say but 'what the shit?'!
    best point in defend of ASS is ASS as an introduction as Johnny said "I think that's a good thing since she's not realy into the whole RO look, but as a change it kind of looks good - but not worth £1500 to try every now and again." a chance to familiarize with this branch of fashion is good reason for ASS.
    dndy1840. thank you for sharing an image of your ASS coat but regardless of your claim that it is nothing to do with h&m or zara i have to say from picture that it looks pretty farkhan' zara to me. better but not by very much
    Quote Originally Posted by huskiesonice View Post
    All Saints is okay, it caters for a market who want to look a certain way. The fact that their clothes may be Julius / Anne D / Rick O copies probably doesn't register with most All Saints customers, and why should it? Not everyone is immersed in what stitching technique Rick Owens is using this season, thank God.

    The quality of All Saints stuff is basically High Street, it won't look the same after you've washed it a few times and for sure their leather is a long way from top quality, but for the price it's good.

    Trevor Bolangaro used to be the top design guy there, at one time.

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    so farkhanyassin true
    Quote Originally Posted by the breaks View Post
    re: quality, all saints > rick

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    I have yet to see a "goth ninja" wear all saints. Despite which designer they seem to be "inspired" by at the time, the customer is always the same essex boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith View Post
    the customer is always the same essex boy.
    maybe it's illustrate our society and average costumers, not the brand and model line?

    Anyway, a lot of us is far from Essex, so if all county looks like Rick/Julius/LUC clones - it's not the worst situation)

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    I have some items from All Saint ( Longsleeves, Shoes, Cardigans).
    The Quality is O.K . I think a little bit better then Zara and H&M ( I have worked for both). But for me , only the Tops and Shoes are working....
    I have tried some leather, Coats and Jackets but the cut is always to big in the shoulders ( maybe because I normally wear RO).
    I like to mix it up with my higher priced items....Online shop is good....returns/refunds are always quickly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsto View Post
    Affordable or not, I would never buy it. And to the guy suggesting that people here would like it more it the price was higher; that is nonsense imo. Allsaints in my eyes is just as bad as wearing black scissors leathers. It's just flat out knock offs, which I would never touch, even though I am a poor student who cannot afford any of the stuff they copy.
    just wanted to bump this.

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    Default all saints, zara, h&m, topshop...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the breaks View Post
    re: quality, all saints > rick
    this quote pretty much sums up this thread.

    "quality" is vague but do you really believe this statement? Even if RO had a hack taping his garments together over there in Italy there in no question that the fabrics are far and away superior to what All Saints is putting out.

    Can you really disagree with this? Maybe you mean something different from "quality" other than basic materials, design, cuts, fit etc.

    I can say that the All Saints shop here in San Francisco will not allow you to return an item unworn with tags. They will only give you a store credit. This is not the way business is done in SF.

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    I would like to think that we buy clothing for more than just its quality of construction. I'm sure you could live quite happily in 14oz denim, heavy flannel shirts and Dr Martens (...well back in the day when they were made in Northampton), but I think construction quality is merely one piece of the puzzle.
    "Lots of people who think they are into fashion are actually just into shopping"

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    Haha, I find it really funny that the CEO is so blunt about it all.


    I am an ex-allsaints fiend. I agree with others that outside of london its more "unique," but in the end I find it much more satisfying buying the brands I do now, which are the same ones as the CEO of the company indulges in

    The quality of the items are above H&M level, but they are still of very poor quality, and the materials are not anything rick level whatsoever. The items are awful to me now, and I don't know how "ninja" they were back when this thread was made, but they seem way more workwear oriented at the moment.

    Allsaints like all high fashion follows big popular trends, but slightly puts some of their own character in the items. Of course this is also paired with the fact that all of their outerwear, and footwear are just god awful quality wise; not to mention poor versions of the actual item.

    I can't hate on people wearing that since I use too, but if I knew then of the existence of rick owens, Julius, and others I definitely would have taken a different route. I would have definitely saved up, and have been content with a much smaller wardrobe, and slowly build up. Phasing out my old wardrobe was one of the best feelings.

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    I'd never pay 300£ for a leather jacket or 80£ for a cardigan that's basically a bad quality knock-off. I can't stand more or less all those brands that are inbetween cheap and 'expensive' - I just feel ripped when I buy stuff like that, because most often the quality is still extremely bad. When I, and that's not very often, buy something high street it's always tees that are about 20$, because the price is the only factor that justifies the purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed View Post
    I would like to think that we buy clothing for more than just its quality of construction. I'm sure you could live quite happily in 14oz denim, heavy flannel shirts and Dr Martens (...well back in the day when they were made in Northampton), but I think construction quality is merely one piece of the puzzle.
    (1) Design, cut and raw materials does not equal construction. That is by definition, not opinion. By definition, I mean the definition of "construction"

    (2) No, I would not be happy wearing Jeans, a flannel and Doc Martens. Worst case scenerio I'd move to a nudist colony

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    I was just referring to: quality, all saints > rick

    We buy clothing for more than just quality of construction is what I was saying. Whether it be ideas, the vision of the designer, etc. etc.
    "Lots of people who think they are into fashion are actually just into shopping"

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    Quote Originally Posted by syed View Post
    I was just referring to: quality, all saints > rick

    We buy clothing for more than just quality of construction is what I was saying. Whether it be ideas, the vision of the designer, etc. etc.
    I guess I'm confused. Do you think the quality of All Saints is greater than Rick Owens?

    Certainly Rick has ideas, designs his own clothing etc etc. You really think All Saints who blatantly rip off other brands designs and mask it under industry terms like "inspiration" can compare? there is a difference between designing clothes and copying designs and putting them into quick production to suit passing fads.

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