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  • Fuuma
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 4050

    Your top10 (ouch)

    Someone started that thread on a french forum where Chant, Dndy, Mail-Moth and I sometime post. It's a stupid exercise but really makes you think about what it means about you if you're being academic and going for the Canon or rejecting the diktats of bourgeois good taste by listing dark horse comics.

    My top 10 films went something like this (not very good, too consensual):

    Le Samouraï (Melville)
    Un condamné à mort s'est échappé (A man escaped) (Bresson)
    Vertigo (Hitchcock)
    À bout de souffle (Breathless) (Godard)
    Sans soleil (Marker)
    Les amants réguliers (Regular lovers) (Garrel)
    The mission (To)
    The battle of Algiers (Pontecorvo)
    La maman et la putain (the mother and the whore) (Eustache)
    Rashomon (Kurosawa)

    Top 10 books was more interesting as I discarded a lot and went for photography books, hard boiled lit and even mangas.

    Nana (Yazawa, teenage girls manga)
    Exhibit A (Bourdin)
    People of the 20th century (Sander)
    120, rue de la Gare (Malet)
    Fatale (Manchette)
    Éloges (Saint-John Perse)
    Vol de nuit (Saint-Exupéry)
    King-rat (Clavell)
    The Case of Charles Dexter Ward (Lovecraft)
    Mythologies (Barthes)

    Of course I'm sorta sad I didn't include Proust, Derrida or Bataille but it's much more revealing that way.
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  • mass
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1131

    #2
    le samourai (melville)
    taxi driver (scorsese)
    fingers (toback)
    winter light (bergman)
    nostalghia (tarkovsky)
    point blank (boorman)
    chinatown (polanski)
    branded to kill (suzuki)
    le notte (antonioni)
    +3 would be thin red line (malick), blue velvet (despite my huge dislike of lynch) and belly (williams)

    my list of films at first thought, which is even more consensual. but, i am always feeling the need to recontextualize 'favorites'. i guess it's worth noting that there are major omissions of films from filmmakers that would be in my top 10, with the exception of antonioni (for example ozu), but i suppose that may make sense due to body of work and sensibilities being put into consideration (but should they be?).

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    • Fuuma
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 4050

      #3
      Originally posted by mass View Post
      le samourai (melville)
      taxi driver (scorsese)
      fingers (toback)
      winter light (bergman)
      nostalghia (tarkovsky)
      point blank (boorman)
      chinatown (polanski)
      branded to kill (suzuki)
      le notte (antonioni)
      +3 would be thin red line (malick), blue velvet (despite my huge dislike of lynch) and belly (williams)

      my list of films at first thought, which is even more consensual. but, i am always feeling the need to recontextualize 'favorites'. i guess it's worth noting that there are major omissions of films from filmmakers that would be in my top 10, with the exception of antonioni (for example ozu), but i suppose that may make sense due to body of work and sensibilities being put into consideration (but should they be?).
      I'm starting to like Mizoguchi more than Ozu and maybe more than Kurosawa, is that wrong? Fingers is an interesting choice. As you can see it's very hard to say something about yourself within the 10 movie format. Oh and I didn't like Point blank unlike pretty much everyone else I've met who've seen the film.

      Other notes: I should have had an Antonioni, a DePalma and some other good stuff.
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      • AKA*NYC
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 3007

        #4
        haha i did this for a friend not long ago.

        narrative films:

        Fire Walk With Me / Inland Empire - Lynch
        The Wild Bunch / Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia - Peckinpah
        Andrei Rublev / Stalker - Tarkovsky
        F For Fake - Wells
        Underground - Kustarica
        Badlands - Malick
        Irreversible - Noe
        Gospel According to Saint Matthew - Pasolini
        A Clockwork Orange / 2001 - Kubrick
        Birth of a Nation / Intolerance - Griffith
        M - Lang
        Tommy - Ken Russell
        Hunger - Steve McQueen
        The Damned - Visconti

        documentaries:

        Hotel Terminus
        17 Blocks from Tiffany's
        Hora de los Hornos
        The California Reich
        Terror's Advocate
        Blood in the Face
        Last edited by AKA*NYC; 04-23-2009, 08:49 PM.
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        • Jorge Hache
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 457

          #5
          Here's mine

          Werckmeister Harmonies - Bela Tarr
          Ivan's Childhood / Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky
          A Clockwork Orange - Stanley Kubrick
          Chungking Express / In The Mood For Love - Wong Kar-wai
          Wings Of Desire - Wim Wenders
          À Bout De Souffle / Bande à Part - Jean-Luc Godard
          The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover - Peter Greenaway
          Japón - Carlos Reygadas
          Blow Up - Michelangelo Antonioni
          Oldboy - Park Chan-wook

          Don't ask me tomorrow, i'll be pretty sure the list will change

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          • Johnny
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 1923

            #6
            wut? how come 40 year old virgin hasn't been mentioned yet?

            edit: didn't credit the director, so just ignore me!

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            • AKA*NYC
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 3007

              #7
              fiction:

              brothers karamazov - dostoevsky
              pure + index - peter sotos
              hunger - knut hamsun
              try - dennis cooper
              philosophy in the bedroom + 120 days of sodom - the divine marquis
              camp of the saints - jean raspail
              blood meridien - cormac mccarthy
              invisible man - ralph ellison
              the whisperer in darkness - lovecraft
              atrocity exhibition + unlimited dream company - j.g. ballard (r.i.p.)
              LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?

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              • justine
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 672

                #8
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                • AKA*NYC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 3007

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mass View Post
                  belly (williams)
                  interesting that you list this film. it struck me as having an ethereal and odd beauty that transcended its surface heavy-handedness. even the name of the film is imbued with this quality. there is that weird scene with nas that reenacts his famous verse. now i want to see it again.

                  edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnwbTq2tMCc (nas scene)
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                  • Fade to Black
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5340

                    #10
                    Films:

                    Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci)
                    Taxi Driver (Scorsese)
                    Blue Velvet (Lynch)
                    The Godfather Part II (Coppola)
                    Y Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron)
                    Days of Being Wild (Wong)
                    The Shining (Kubrick)
                    Heat (Mann)
                    Punch Drunk Love (Anderson)
                    Paris, Texas (Wenders)

                    edit - took out Dumb and Dumber, it's genuinely my favorite laugh out loud comedy ever, but PDL by PTA felt closer to my personal sensibilities. Of the pathetic, marginalized and frustrated anger present in a lot of characterizations of 90s and post- slapstick comedies, Sandler never did a better job than in that film. He could've made just that film and it would be fine standing in for anything else he's done, pretty much.

                    On a similar vein, 40 year old virgin isn't top 10 material but it's a fine film.
                    Last edited by Fade to Black; 04-23-2009, 10:09 PM.
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                    • Fade to Black
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5340

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AKA*NYC View Post
                      haha i did this for a friend not long ago.


                      Badlands - Malick
                      i just saw this not long ago, a perfectly concise (not to mention photographic) film where pretty much everything is just right. it'd have a place on my list if extended to 20...other than the top 5 or so films my 'favorites' is often interchangeable with additions/deletions.

                      wonder how come Malick made so few films over so many years...i remember seeing The Thin Red Line as a kid and not really understanding it (at the time I thought Saving Private Ryan was the more watchable film, hah)
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                      • AKA*NYC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 3007

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fade to Black View Post
                        i just saw this not long ago, a perfectly concise (not to mention photographic) film where pretty much everything is just right. it'd have a place on my list if extended to 20...other than the top 5 or so films my 'favorites' is often interchangeable with additions/deletions.

                        wonder how come Malick made so few films over so many years...i remember seeing The Thin Red Line as a kid and not really understanding it (at the time I thought Saving Private Ryan was the more watchable film, hah)
                        to me badlands is the best of the american "auteur" films. imo your childhood intuition was spot on. saving private ryan is vastly better than thin red line. badlands notwithstanding i think terrence malick is the second most overrated filmmaker in the world, the first being john cassavettes (bono of independent film). you saw thin red line as a kid? makes me feel old.
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                        • Real Real
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 619

                          #13
                          Top 10 books (very obvious):

                          Palm at the End of the Mind - Stevens
                          Montaigne's Essays
                          Thank You Jeeves - Wodehouse
                          The Magic Mountain - Mann
                          Tom Jones - Fielding
                          Ulysses - Joyce
                          Lucky Jim - Amis
                          Lolita - Nabokov
                          Collected Works - Shakespeare
                          Brighton Rock - Greene

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                          • Faust
                            kitsch killer
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 37852

                            #14
                            (Work in process)

                            Top 10 books

                            Master and Margarita - Bulgakov
                            Heart of a Dog - Bulgakov
                            Immortality - Kundera
                            The Fall - Camus
                            Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man - Joyce
                            Kafka's short stories (hard pressed to find a fave)
                            The Road - McCarthy
                            1984 - Orwell
                            Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance - Pirsig
                            The Little Prince - Exupery

                            P.S. I think we should also include top 10 albums.
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                            • mass
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1131

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AKA*NYC View Post
                              to me badlands is the best of the american "auteur" films. imo your childhood intuition was spot on. saving private ryan is vastly better than thin red line. badlands notwithstanding i think terrence malick is the second most overrated filmmaker in the world, the first being john cassavettes (bono of independent film). you saw thin red line as a kid? makes me feel old.
                              coincidentally i think spielberg is one of the most overrated filmmakers ever. what's wrong with cassavettes?

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