buildings, next level

[swami]

Anyone have nice images of CaixaForum in Madrid. Herzog & de Meuron are probably my favorite of the famous set.

[rogelro]

better than pics, video!

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[asho]

It's interesting to see how the more comercial designers aren't very popular in here, but when talking about architecture it's completely different, let's say that libeskind is not the equivalent of Elbaz, Yohji, Rei, Junya, Poell and the like. He's more Prada like, his early work (drawings) is interesting though.


The best architecture is rarely known by outsiders I believe. I'll try to post some from time to time.

from a Spaniard's perspective, what do you think of RCR?

Sigurd Lewerentz has probably been my greatest inspiration. as for any designer, an architect needs to have a special connection with his chosen material/s. to me Lewerentz embodies this... zumthor too, not in the best mindset to brainstorm so i would love to know any architects who would fit this model.

pics later

[swych]

Caixaforum is extremely good as an urban device but extremely boring as amuseum concept. It's a beautiful object...

Well, thats HdM cosmetics for u...

I'm surprised to see Caixaforum and Zaha here in the forum actually. It's established that Zeitgeist has a particular brand of aesthetic; how would this translate into architecture? Does Zaha esque smooth, glossy sinuous curves seem out of place to you (plural) in this forum?

[swych]

not saying they are at all. i'm talking about a certain 'aesthetic'. i for one am sick of zaha.

I think that the manifesto (which i like alot) suggests a broader range of conversations than what actually happens. I don't think that there's anything wrong with it, but there is a certain zeitgeist lens through which any topic is discussed. There is definitely a certain philosophy/ aesthetic to the appreciated things here in zeitgeist

The critique of Jeffrey Kipnis of HdM is spot on I think in his article 'the cunning of cosmetics', and very in line with my opinion of them. From my observation of Zeitgeist and the obsession with construction and process, I'd have thought the architecture that we appreciate would be more tectonic is all. (kipnis here: http://www.kt3d.com/pratt/sp09/thesi...0Cosmetics.pdf)

So maybe in architecture aesthetic might not be the right word... more like what 'qualities' do you appreciate in architecture? vitra fire station to guggenheim bilbao to burj dubai to chapel of st ignatius to maison du verre are all 'quality', but in vastly different ways. What do we like here?

ps, it is for these reasons i selected zumthor and scarpa as the architects i posted. zumthor for 'materiality', scarpa for the 'joint'. these are two subjects that interest me alot especially in the cross over to fashion.

[asho]

RCR are interesting imo, their approach to landscape work is sharp.

thanks for bringing back Lewerentz...so good
Asplund (of course hehe), some early enric miralles, alejandro de la sota... might interest you

Caixaforum is extremely good as an urban device but extremely boring as amuseum concept. It's a beautiful object...

That vineyard RCR did is some of the best landscape work I have seen

[asho]

Well, thats HdM cosmetics for u...

I'm surprised to see Caixaforum and Zaha here in the forum actually. It's established that Zeitgeist has a particular brand of aesthetic; how would this translate into architecture? Does Zaha esque smooth, glossy sinuous curves seem out of place to you (plural) in this forum?

hussein chalayan

[DamageX]

The front page states "but feel free to post anything" So I'm assuming Zaha is okay to place in this thread. Nothing wrong with smooth curves every now and then

[deleuze]

Zaha Hadid? Isn't she a shoe designer?

[rogelro]

Zaha Hadid? Isn't she a shoe designer?

lol no thats just a one time thing for her I think

well maybe not, her new collaboration

http://www.wwd.com/footwear-news/first-look-zaha-hadid-for-lacoste-2127352?src=rss/recentstories/20090508

[swych]

you'll have to enlighten me wire...

i've come across this building in various history of arch survey classes in the past, but have never understood the signifance entirely.

i've seen delightful spaces inside, and it essentially tries to be a building symbiotically sited in the landscape. To that end, it's probably one of the better buildings- i especially appreciate the scale of hte windows and roofs in relation the trees beyond in the ifrst picture, and how this massive cluster of bulidings are broken down by different windows.

For me, the problem arises in the last two pictures, where i question 'what is a barnyard doing on a cliff?' the landscape makes the site super challenging to work with. first you have a rolling hill that rises up to a little prairie with trees, but on the other end, you have crashing waves. it works great without the water feature i think.

reminds me of this:

tolo house, siza

[lowrey]

^ thats pretty sick.

random scan:



Kyoto International Conference Center

[reborn]

I drove past the MIT Gehry building this afternoon and thought it was worth posting here...it's fun and it reminds of old movie sets for German Expressionist films (think Dr. Caligari):

[Chinorlz]

as much of an inefficient and faulty building it is, it was fun to walk through and watch being constructed. The inside is neat and almost whimsical in some section/rooms. I used to study inside there.

[swych]

^ thats pretty sick.

random scan:



Kyoto International Conference Center

nice mike lowrey, it's like church of the water x citta nuova! you got any more info on it?

church on the water, hokkaido, tadao ando



citta nuova, sketch, antonio sant'elia