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Originally posted by Jtothewhat View PostDo you think you could combine a fasted light cardio workout with regular training? As in maybe warming up with some cardio on the treadmill as you say, then moving into a regular workout in weight training? Or would you do them on separate days?
So if you transitioned to lifting right away you'd run the risk that the energy demanded would be too high and you'd break muscle tissue down for fuel
Having said that you could certainly exercise that same day and perhaps that same morning but you'd want some food or a carb drink in your system beforehand. If you wanted to do it the same morning I'd suggest consuming one of the fast acting carb drinks before. Honestly it's a good idea regardless. I use vitargo but there are a lot of alternatives. These tend to all be highly processed starches that are supposed to digest super quick to help replenish glycogen
Personally I prefer to lift in. The afternoon not the morning because I'm not a morning person and you want to be wide awake when you lift -- not because you might be drowsy and drop something but because you'll have better neural efficiency. When your brain tells your muscles to fire (I.e., lift, contract etc) they'll do so more efficiently and you'll either be able to lift heavier, or more reps, or better form depending on your training goals.
Hope that helps and wasn't too much lifting gobley gook
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^ muscular glycogen is far from depleted after one night of sleep, especially if one ate the evening before... Working out fasted = instant fat burning is a myth.
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Originally posted by MoFiya View Post^ muscular glycogen is far from depleted after one night of sleep, especially if one ate the evening before... Working out fasted = instant fat burning is a myth.
Hence the reason why fasted LISS cardio is most effective and consistent when truly in a depleted state, i.e when running a keto diet.
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I did Intermittent Fasting for 2+ years, so ... yeah.
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Originally posted by chandler View PostI agree with Gucci's advice. There's an old saying that abs are made in the kitchen not the gym
I'm an advocate of a lower carb diet to focus on reducing body fat. Carbs, especially refined or high in GI, tell the body to store excess calories as fat (or so I'm told). Regardless it works. There are sexier approaches but they require too much discipline in my own experience
In terms of exercise to reduce fat the only thing I've ever had success w is very light cardio in a fasted state. For example, walking on a treadmill as fast as you can but still able to have a conversation. anything faster and you risk deepening a catabolic state where your body will consume it's own hard-gained muscle mass to fuel the workout. I used to do this first thing in the morning before breakfast so your body is in a nice fasted state so that fat reserves would fuel the exercise. This has worked for me but is less powerful than diet. Also because it's slow pace it's more time consuming
I exercise before lunch - it's a perfect time for me to take a prolonged break, as my mornings are work-intensive.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by MoFiya View PostI did Intermittent Fasting for 2+ years, so ... yeah.
And for the record, my own philosophy for dieting and lifting is that the best program/diet is the one you can stick with -- save the sexy stuff for only when necessary. I have seen way too many people start a program guns ablazing and they just burn out fast and give up -- especially with lifting.
Calorie defecit is of course key and will get you most of the way there if not all the way there depending on your goals. But if you want low bf% eventually it peters out and further calorie reduction won't give you the results; your metabolism just slows down in response to reduced calories (e.g., heart rate slows ever so slightly, body temp lowers etc.), and it stops getting tricked by cheat days and the like. Then I typically switch to reduced carb diets or carb cycling, and this will work for a while but eventually peter out, and then (at least for me) I need to resort to something fancier (e.g., keto diets which i hate for personal reasons but find necessary for me if i want to get real low bf).
For me the fasted cardio is an option when i'm in the later stages, e.g., reduced carb or later. It burns fat but the reality is light cardio is very time consuming. It doesn't burn all that many calories per hour. SO it's more of a tweak/trick to get the tough stuff at the end, when the simpler dieting etc. stop working
for those who like references here is one: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0124091425.htm
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Originally posted by Faust View PostIt's been working. Cut out carbs in the evening, and in general consume less calories in the evening, and it shows - fast. Getting used to just drinking water when I feel hungry in the evenings - I know the feeling of hunger can be misleading (i.e.e you are either thirsty or bored).
I exercise before lunch - it's a perfect time for me to take a prolonged break, as my mornings are work-intensive.
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Yeah, I can do protein and veggies for dinner - no problem.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Does it annoy anyone else how rick owens himself values fitness, yet he doesn't cast fit male models in his runway shows? I mean, if he wants to have more bodytypes than simply fit, fine .... but why are fit male models altogether absent? Ridiculous."He described this initial impetus as like discovering that they both were looking at the same intriguing specific tropical fish, with attempts to understand it leading to a huge ferocious formalism he characterizes as a shark that leapt out of the tank."
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