it's amazing how people won't bat an eye spending an average of over $3000 on an outfit, usually one of many, but conceivably have no loyalty to an incredible resource and platform for the zeitgeist. on the other hand, if I was in charge, and was faced with this tough decision, I would up the ante for the affliates. they are the advertisers here. they drive the Market, they set the outrageous prices, they sling the crack rock, and I can only guess that their client base and traffic has increased exponentially for the exposure. i doubt that they'll walk.
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Originally posted by Faust View PostThank you for all the comments. I know I cannot satisfy everyone - it's impossible. But I don't think the classifieds will drop this drastically. As Christian says, there is a clear benefit in posting in classifieds here - it's not the only place, but it is the ultimate place go buy things of a certain esthetic without wading through piles of shit. I don't mind if this weeds out those who just want to use SZ to sell.
I also agree with Christian that ranting at something as nominal as 1% fee is quite strange. I mean, Ebay charges nearly 10%. People make money by selling - SZ provides the selling platform.
Like I said before, I want to dedicate myself to SZ full time. We already get exclusive previews from certain designers, inside looks at showrooms, photos, exclusive articles here and in partnership with Scoute. I get so many complements on the quality of the forum from the people in the industry. It can only get better from here, but I need the forum's support.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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Originally posted by philip nod View Postit's amazing how people won't bat an eye spending an average of over $3000 on an outfit, usually one of many, but conceivably have no loyalty to an incredible resource and platform for the zeitgeist. on the other hand, if I was in charge, and was faced with this tough decision, I would up the ante for the affliates. they are the advertisers here. they drive the Market, they set the outrageous prices, they sling the crack rock, and I can only guess that their client base and traffic has increased exponentially for the exposure. i doubt that they'll walk.
In fact one of the current discussion in social-economy is how we are presently unable to capture the "value" of polinization (think searching on google, contributing to forums, organizing and participating in a free arts festival in a small town, etc) and that it creates economic distorsions. Google is notoriously quick to take advantage of that.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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for what it's worth, I agree with nod's suggestion re the listed affiliates. as far as i can see, getting an account to sell [sz brand] + getting onto store affilite list = $$/euro/£££ etc. in some cases, and for some items, I'd go so far as to say that's it's pretty much a guarantee of selling the items in the popular sizes. if that's correct, then there is a clear and substantial direct financial benefit in the association, which ought to be paid for.
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Originally posted by Johnny View Postfor what it's worth, I agree with nod's suggestion re the listed affiliates. as far as i can see, getting an account to sell [sz brand] + getting onto store affilite list = $$/euro/£££ etc.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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^ (@ fuuma's initial post) truth. the impassioned thoughts and opinions of members and dare i say even the (quality) sales threads are what make sz so special. considering that there is a serious prerequisite already in place for sales - a mandatory 100 posts that are monitored for substance - that seems like more than enough of a trade-off. i still think that donations are the way to go but perhaps a donation drive of some sort - with some concrete and convincing data to compel users to donate - would generate more income than a general and somewhat oblique request for money.LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?
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Originally posted by Fuuma View PostBut how can you say that if you don't know how much they're already paying?
I suppose all I'm saying is that i would recommend that the site owner and mods asses this and consider whether what they charge ought fairly to be increased. it would involve some dialogue with the stores, and possibly some dissemination of financial results
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Originally posted by Fuuma View PostI understand your point and truly command your dedication, especially considering I know what you really had to do to get this going and staying relevant but, in a sense, the payment forum members make is through their time and contributions. We basically put our ideas, pictures and offerings in common and this is what brings value to the forum. Just like I'd be wary of getting paid to contribute I don't see why I'd have to pay to share.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Faust View PostYou are not paying to be an SZ member. I thought I've made that clear.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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the genius of david berman and the silver jews
Troubles, no troubles, on the line, & I can't stand
to see you, I can't stand to see you when you're
crying at home. Scotch & penicillin, please try
Carlton, a cold black maple hanger & husbands
on the run I just got back from a dream
attack that took me by surprise & in there
I met a lady, her name was Shady Sides & she
said, "It's been evening all day long, evening
all day long & how can something so old be so
wrong". Sin and gravity drag me down to sleep
to dream of trains across the sea, trains across
the sea. Half hours on earth, what are
they worth, I don't know. In 27 years
I've drunk fifty thousand beers & they just
wash against me like the sea into a pier.
One wonders where it will end, when everything has become gay.
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Originally posted by Fuuma View PostThey benefit from the overflow without neccessarily needing to advertise on the site (which is an added bonus). In other words let's say having CCP discussed bring them 75% of new business and the 25% left is gained by advertising they will quantify that last %25 and decide if it warrants paying for it or not.Last edited by philip nod; 11-02-2010, 04:30 PM.One wonders where it will end, when everything has become gay.
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Originally posted by CUTUP View PostWhat if the classifides were still kept free, but special privlages where given to those who paid a fee?
ie. Highlighted posts in the classifides to draw more attention to your items, the ability to bump more often then the rules would normally allow, letting you put links in your sig's to your items ect..
I would certainly be interested in paying a fee for a "platinum" or "oiled cordovan" membership if it were, in exchange for selling priveleges before 100 posts. Even if it was the case that the fee was yearly, and not a one-time fee. I do not post here often, but do find myself wishing I could list stuff here from time to time. Most of the time I do list stuff on Superfuture/ebay, a SZ member ends up buying it anyway.
I agree also with Eugene and Christian that this Classified section has much more a focused offering than places like Superfuture, which benefits both the buyer and seller really. I have dealt with several members on the buying/trading side here, and have always had a pleasurable transaction.
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Originally posted by MikeNouveau View PostHere's another vote for charging a membership fee and locking the entire site down.
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