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Old 01-01-2009, 02:42 PM   #1
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Default Fabric: Dyeing and Colorfastness

So this does not pertain to clothing items, but it is about fabric...

I want to make my own curtains. I have been looking everywhere, and I can not find anything that I like. I am extremely picky with these kinds of things. So one of the home design center people I spoke with suggested I go to the Garment district and buy my own fabric and either make them myself or have them made.

I have some questions/concerns:

Colorfastness of material. Since these will be hung in the direct sunlight, I dont want to spend good money on fabric that I love and have it fade in two weeks. I know that all fabric will fade over time, but looking for suggestions or what to ask for in this regard.

Dyeing of material. Tied to the concern above. I have found a potential white fabric that may suffice but I would want to dye it a very specific grey. So looking for suggestions on places to dye and what type of dye to avoid quick fading.

It is amazing that I have looked at a million places and grey curtains are almost non-existent.
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:35 PM   #2
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come to stockholm. there's grey and latte colours everywhere.
i wish i could help more with the colourfastness thing, but i'm not sure if it's the fiber or the dye that determines how colour fast something is. all I know is that it's easier to dye natural fiber. fiber reactive dye.
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come to stockholm. there's grey and latte colours everywhere.
i wish i could help more with the colourfastness thing, but i'm not sure if it's the fiber or the dye that determines how colour fast something is. all I know is that it's easier to dye natural fiber. fiber reactive dye.
thank you. cant go to stockholm right now but will start researching the fiber aspect. i also have a feeling that i will probably find fabric and that i will love the color but will fade horribly...
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:29 PM   #4
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i don't know about colorfastness, unfortunately, but I bet the nice people at Mood will be able to advise you. I got the fabric for my curtains there (they are silvery grey), and they were very helpful.
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Old 01-01-2009, 08:46 PM   #5
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i don't know about colorfastness, unfortunately, but I bet the nice people at Mood will be able to advise you. I got the fabric for my curtains there (they are silvery grey), and they were very helpful.
Thank you. I will try definitely try Mood. Curtains have become my enemy right now. I look everywhere that I go. I know exactly what color I want, at least for one room, and that is part of the problem...
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^Here's the address, in case you don't watch Project Runway.

225 W 37th St, 3rd Floor
New York, NY 10018

This is their website.
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^Here's the address, in case you don't watch Project Runway.

225 W 37th St, 3rd Floor
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This is their website.
thank you.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:15 PM   #8
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I recommend you talk to these guys, Mood while having a decent selection is more fashion specific.Zarin has a huge selection of never ending fabrics for drapes. It will be expensive to fabricate them but always use lining ..this will extend the life of your curtains for quite a few years.
http://www.zarinfabrics.com/
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I'd like to have curtains made in the same jersey rick owens used for palais royal JERSEY CURTAINS.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #10
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kira- If you cant find curtain specific fabric and want a glossy-ish finish maybe check out flag fabrics and automobile sun-shade type fabrics. Anything of moderate quality must be finished to resist fading. Also you could check outdoor furniture upholstery, a quick google found this. Supposed to be sun/uv resistant. Cant tell so much from the web samples so send away for fabric swatches but they have a choice of textures and shades and there are many online retailers. Also maybe think along the lines of sailboating/yachting fabrics, although these maybe more heavy duty than you are looking for.

Heirloom - Ive never seen the rick curtains but I had random jersey curtains in my Brooklyn loft. Black, faded to charcoal. Cant say I really noticed them though, im not much of a curtain toucher. Whats so special about the palais royal jersey?
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it's the same thin jersey he uses for the lilies collection. It was thin and matte and dust coloured. it looked awesome.
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Be careful about Mood, the lighting there is not the best and I have loved a fabric color in the store and when I got it home it was a completely different color than what I thought!
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:43 PM   #13
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this is a good thread. anybody done any denim dying and have any tips? I am trying to re dye my 06 N(N) dark grey w/ black over dye jeans. These jeans are losing their black over dye color and I want to refresh them visually. Already kinda looking bland and like a regular light blue jean color.

I just figured on getting some RIT dye and testing out a pocket or something.
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it's the same thin jersey he uses for the lilies collection. It was thin and matte and dust coloured. it looked awesome.
i actually have been thinking about a fabric like the RO jersey or like my attachment scarf for my curtains...either would be divine. unfortunately the curtain project has been put on hold until February until my work crunch lets up then.
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this is a good thread. anybody done any denim dying and have any tips? I am trying to re dye my 06 N(N) dark grey w/ black over dye jeans. These jeans are losing their black over dye color and I want to refresh them visually. Already kinda looking bland and like a regular light blue jean color.

I just figured on getting some RIT dye and testing out a pocket or something.
I just dyed some white stonewash V-A jeans to grey. Was feeling lazy and just bought a single packet of black Rit (they advise 1 packet/lb. of fabric). 8 mins in the dye, a quick warm wash and they dried to a great grey with a hint of lavender. The purplish tone makes sense to me since I've heard RIT black sometimes fades to a black/purple. However a heavy cotton shirt I dyed black (with the proper time in the dye) hasn't faded in the least.

Everything I've read said you should get the liquid Rit if possible. And be sure to use an appropriate amount of salt with the dye to help bind the dye to the fabric.

I was hoping someone cold explain this to me: there are various areas where there are speckles of yellow and red. I was under the impression such damage would occur with bleaching, not dyeing.
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Anyone know any other dyes than Rit? I'm trying to dye a beige, cotton shirt black. In past experiences, Rit has always came out more purple than black.
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i was wondering if its possible to dye these julius pants black?
its 45% cotton 44% rayon and 11% stainless steel. If it was 100% cotton i know it would be possible but the rayon worries me.
If anyone has em in a size 2 in black let me know.
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Anyone know any other dyes than Rit? I'm trying to dye a beige, cotton shirt black. In past experiences, Rit has always came out more purple than black.
Go through Dharma Trading for all of your dyes. The Procion series of black dye is really amazing. No textural changes to the dyed fabric and the colors are true. Prepare for massive amounts of rinses thought post-dying to remove excess dye.
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Old 04-01-2009, 05:01 PM   #19
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every thread eventually mentions rick
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Go through Dharma Trading for all of your dyes. The Procion series of black dye is really amazing. No textural changes to the dyed fabric and the colors are true. Prepare for massive amounts of rinses thought post-dying to remove excess dye.
i have always wondered about this! all i've ever seen is RIT.

i ended up dying one of my dark shadow colored rick t's and a pair of NNs (black with grey distressing) (w/ 1 box of RIT) and it came out ever MORE dark shadow colored (the purple drk shadow color, vs the brown one), which i guess is cool but i wanted it black.

Gonna check out dharma trading.

also, if u have to use RIT, i've heard the liquid dye is better than the powder.
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