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I also find the UC Davis case more interesting (than some) because these are students (who pay to go to the university) and faculty (who work FOR the university).
Further, the protesters clearly aren't violent or physical. People can be as analytical as they want, but there's no violence shown on their part.
Philosophically speaking, wouldn't you think by now that cops (or other authorities) would learn to expect that saying "you have 3 more minutes to clear out" would result in absolutely nothing. It'd be a pretty worthless protest if everyone just turned around and walked away at 2:59. So, if I were a cop, I'd be 100% sure that if I said "I'm going to kill you in 3 minutes" that it would mean you'd be dead because common sense tells me that you aren't going to leave since, well........It's a protest. The disappointing observation about watching cops do this at non-violent protests is it becomes apparent that their arrival causes the protesters to be violent when in fact there would be no violence at all if the cops didn't show up. Often the authorities spawn the violence, which is why I'm just not a fan of them showing up unless a violent incident has occurred.
Away from my rant and back to details. What I didn't understand in the video that Lane posted is that the cops clearly state that they are just going to make some arrests. That's cool and I think most people would be OK with making arrests with some twist ties, detaining people, dishing out non-felony citations and moving on. It's not the end of the world for either side. It's not necessary, yet also not violent either. So, why did they start pepper-spraying people instead of doing what they said. They could have just walked up and cuffed people one by one and that'd be just fine. Pretty big waste of tax payers and university $$$$, but at least it would have been what was clearly stated.
You can watch jacked up shows like COPS and half the time they are gentler with some cracked out thug on the street who is legitimately a threat, carrying a weapon, out of their mind and/or resisting arrest than they were with those seemingly non-violent protesters, who (most likely) pay to be on that campus.
I still claim +1 for very well behaved protesters in that incident.
Further, the protesters clearly aren't violent or physical. People can be as analytical as they want, but there's no violence shown on their part.
Philosophically speaking, wouldn't you think by now that cops (or other authorities) would learn to expect that saying "you have 3 more minutes to clear out" would result in absolutely nothing. It'd be a pretty worthless protest if everyone just turned around and walked away at 2:59. So, if I were a cop, I'd be 100% sure that if I said "I'm going to kill you in 3 minutes" that it would mean you'd be dead because common sense tells me that you aren't going to leave since, well........It's a protest. The disappointing observation about watching cops do this at non-violent protests is it becomes apparent that their arrival causes the protesters to be violent when in fact there would be no violence at all if the cops didn't show up. Often the authorities spawn the violence, which is why I'm just not a fan of them showing up unless a violent incident has occurred.
Away from my rant and back to details. What I didn't understand in the video that Lane posted is that the cops clearly state that they are just going to make some arrests. That's cool and I think most people would be OK with making arrests with some twist ties, detaining people, dishing out non-felony citations and moving on. It's not the end of the world for either side. It's not necessary, yet also not violent either. So, why did they start pepper-spraying people instead of doing what they said. They could have just walked up and cuffed people one by one and that'd be just fine. Pretty big waste of tax payers and university $$$$, but at least it would have been what was clearly stated.
You can watch jacked up shows like COPS and half the time they are gentler with some cracked out thug on the street who is legitimately a threat, carrying a weapon, out of their mind and/or resisting arrest than they were with those seemingly non-violent protesters, who (most likely) pay to be on that campus.
I still claim +1 for very well behaved protesters in that incident.
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