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Originally posted by guardimp View PostWhat is the problem with this? A store does not want homeless people to sleep or stay outside of it and has done something about it. It's not like they did something to homeless people, they just changed their building.
It would be funny to affix mattresses on top those spikes, though.
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There is always going to be debate about these spikes and the homeless situation in general. Clearly the cities don't have enough resources to deal with homelessness in general in a proper and ethical way. I get that the store wants to cater completely to their customers and I guess this means keeping anyone not shopping or working there from disrupting what they are trying to present. They are homeless people all over NY and there are also more and more of those spikes popping up. I definitely feel bad and I do what little I can to help when I am able but I've also seen homeless people acting belligerent and with just complete anger and disregard for the people around them. This includes pissing and shitting in front of and near stores and restaurants, sleeping there and leaving garbage. It's sad that this is what it comes to but the store at the end of the day I guess has to do what it has to do to prevent dangerous practices (angry homeless people, spread of disease) At what point however is it the store's responsibility to try to help their city with the overarching issue of homelessness? Does the store hold any responsibility at all? I can totally see Selfridges installing those spikes to keep sleeping homeless away but can they make donations? Do they run coat drives? Really quite a slippery slopeOriginally posted by FaustHOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
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Originally posted by DudleyGray View PostIf anything, it's just tasteless. Homeless people aren't animals.
Originally posted by DudleyGray View PostIt would be funny to affix mattresses on top those spikes, though.
Or someone important from the fashion industry could sleep there (dressed in full PH to look the part, of course) as a sign of protest."The only rule is don't be boring and dress cute wherever you go. Life is too short to blend in."
-Paris Hilton
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Originally posted by DudleyGray View PostIf anything, it's just tasteless. Homeless people aren't animals. If they're causing a disturbance, ask them to leave like a normal person.
It would be funny to affix mattresses on top those spikes, though.Originally posted by FaustHOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
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Originally posted by DudleyGray View PostIt would be funny to affix mattresses on top those spikes, though.
concrete is better:
fuck selfridges. i'm never ever buying from them again. fucking barbarians.
Originally posted by eleves View Postsucks that people just have bad breaks sometimes.Last edited by Shucks; 02-17-2015, 09:02 AM.
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Originally posted by guardimp View PostWhat is the problem with this? A store does not want homeless people to sleep or stay outside of it and has done something about it. It's not like they did something to homeless people, they just changed their building.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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Originally posted by eleves View PostI definitely feel bad and I do what little I can to help when I am able but I've also seen homeless people acting belligerent and with just complete anger and disregard for the people around them. This includes pissing and shitting in front of and near stores and restaurants, sleeping there and leaving garbage. It's sad that this is what it comes to but the store at the end of the day I guess has to do what it has to do to prevent dangerous practices (angry homeless people, spread of disease) At what point however is it the store's responsibility to try to help their city with the overarching issue of homelessness? Does the store hold any responsibility at all? I can totally see Selfridges installing those spikes to keep sleeping homeless away but can they make donations? Do they run coat drives? Really quite a slippery slope
If Selfridges was doing this for their customers, I think it's insulting that they think their customer base would be OK with this. Oh, the homeless people are poor and depressing to look at, let's keep them out of our sight with spikes.
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Originally posted by Shucks View Postyeah, but it's not that simple. affordable housing, healthcare (mental and physical) and job security are disappearing fast and homelessness in the UK is rising quickly. funding of shelters and non-profits is being cut. it's not just about people having bad breaks. once u are out of the system there is very little chance to get back in. and thanks to companies like selfridges, now it's harder to even find a place to sleep.
Originally posted by DudleyGray View PostI get what you're saying, but thought it was worth noting that a lot of that belligerence isn't necessarily from disregard for people but mental illness.
If Selfridges was doing this for their customers, I think it's insulting that they think their customer base would be OK with this. Oh, the homeless people are poor and depressing to look at, let's keep them out of our sight with spikes.Originally posted by FaustHOBBY?! HOBBY?!?!?!?!?! You are on SZ, buddy - it ain't no hobby, it's passion, religion, and unbounded cosmic love rolled into one.
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Originally posted by Fuuma View PostThere are a series of aggressive urban measures specifically targeting micro-spaces the homeless can use, coupled with police and store owners harassment it says a lot about our humanity. Disciplinary architecture is shaping urban lives in ways small and big. Capitalist subjectification is, once again, getting in the way of us being a community of citizens.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Faust View PostI have experienced this firsthand and thought about it many a time - the way private architecture is often designed is to keep you moving. No place to sit down, to rest. That's when I recall The Grapes of Wrath where Steinbeck describes so well the prerogative of police to keep the poor moving, to destroy them by tiring them out.Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
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