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  • Faust
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    Originally posted by MikeNouveau View Post
    You and me both!
    shut up!!!

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  • sargon97
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    Yeah just ask Noam. There was a great interview by a well known British journalist on Manufacturing Consent, but I can't seem to find the link at the moment.

    Originally posted by cjbreed View Post
    too true. check this out: who owns the media

    edit - fyi this blog is a little extreme. and peppered with BS.

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  • sargon97
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    ^ yeah currently 40%.

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  • MikeN
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    Originally posted by Dawn
    RO starts tomorrow. At least the London location is. NYC one starts on the 2nd as kunk mentioned earlier..
    Did I miss something? NYC store is definitely already on sale.

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  • cjbreed
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    Originally posted by beardown View Post

    There are still a few media outlets that report the truth but for the most part, newspapers and the news are parts of larger conglomerates with specific agendas to push, generally to create larger profits.

    I worked for a newspaper in my earlier days and it's no exaggeration to say that the larger, more important advertisers literally dictated the front page stories. They could get them buried or pulled altogether with a quick phone call to the publisher or they could get a useless story above the fold in the 3rd largest market of the state I was living in.
    too true. check this out: who owns the media

    edit - fyi this blog is a little extreme. and peppered with BS.

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  • sshum88
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    Back to regular programming...Zekka is now 50% off on:

    DAMIR DOMA, DEVOA, LUMEN et UMBRA and ANN DEMEULEMEESTER

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  • Mikevigar
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    Isn't it all part of the general apathy towards current affairs that most societies (particularly UK) have gone through in the last few years? So much celebrity culture just dumbs down what people see as 'news' and the media have just latched onto this by responding to what the majority of the population want (stories about x factor scandals, who slept with Becks last week etc...), which in turn has lead the political world into a culture of issue politics and oneupmanship.

    Its a very unfortunate state of affairs, and limits opportunities for good discussion about all things important in the world, but getting angry about isn't healthy so I will finish by going back to the thread purpose.

    Just bought from Zekka, and they're going to 50% on Julius and Damir I believe.

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  • beardown
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    Great quote and I agree. I didn't mean to suggest you were justifying the idea. It's just generally become the accepted idea in the states.

    There are still a few media outlets that report the truth but for the most part, newspapers and the news are parts of larger conglomerates with specific agendas to push, generally to create larger profits.

    I worked for a newspaper in my earlier days and it's no exaggeration to say that the larger, more important advertisers literally dictated the front page stories. They could get them buried or pulled altogether with a quick phone call to the publisher or they could get a useless story above the fold in the 3rd largest market of the state I was living in.

    One problem is that the media has become accustomed to giving people what they want and in the pursuit of this, they forget to what levels they're stooping. It's a business like any other and if CNN is could show videos of LOL cats 24-hours per day and make money, they'd most definitely do it.

    And now I will quit pretending I'm on Reddit return this thread back to the original topic: F/W 10 Sales. Sorry for the digression. I can't help myself sometimes.

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  • Lane
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    woops, I didn't mean it was their job, even though I said that, haha. I actually meant its what they do to keep their power and influence in the world.

    "If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed."
    — Mark Twain
    still relevant to today, imo

    Also, yes this whole country is built on credit, and now we are seeing the consequences of living in excess, and ignoring the importance of savings/capital build up.

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  • beardown
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    Originally posted by Lane View Post
    well, yah, the medias job is always to sensationalize everything otherwise no one would bother watching the news if it wasn't somewhat entertaining. I really think unless we are in a severe depression things like black friday go unaffected because we live in such a consumer driven society. Consumption is one of the roots of this culture.
    The media's job should be to report facts unbiasedly and inform the public; not to entertain or sensationalize. I'm not saying it's not the popular approach to lure in the lowest common denominator but let's be honest here: we live in sad times when people think the media's job is to entertain. Very sad times.

    And wikileaks is accused of being a terrorist organization for letting people know what's really going on while outfits like Fox News are winning 'journalism' awards for making up stories like 'death panels' and pied piping the uneducated idiots up into a fabricated/manufactured frenzy.

    In terms of America, more debt has always been the solution to not having money. I'd like to see the figures on how much of Black Friday's slaughter was the result of cold, hard cash and how much was the result of high-interest credit cards that will never, ever be paid off.

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  • Lane
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    Originally posted by philip nod View Post
    yeah I agree but I mostly was referring to the battle of perception and the medias desire to make everything seem awful under Obama. seeing images of the cows breaking thru doors on black Friday means the tide is turning in the land of perception
    well, yah, the medias job is always to sensationalize everything otherwise no one would bother watching the news if it wasn't somewhat entertaining. I really think unless we are in a severe depression things like black friday go unaffected because we live in such a consumer driven society. Consumption is one of the roots of this culture.

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  • philip nod
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    Originally posted by eton97 View Post
    i sit in these shitty equity markets all day getting kicked in the ass, come home to try and get some relief by making myself personally bankrupt buying $2000 pairs of boots, log on to SZ, and get economics......

    oh..and by the way.....for those $ friends out there - sit tight....this weak euro is likely to get a whole lot worse...
    so I just read yr post in the culture thread and I can see why . get this guy a stiff martini. lol

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  • sam_tem
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    from all the recent news lately capital doesn't appear to be the problem though, it's just that there's not enough demand to risk putting the capital to use. better to just buy a million dollar home and use the tax deductions. you could always say that increased consumer spending results in more capital though as it increases companies profits and desire to ramp up production.

    it's still an important economic indicator, but right now spending is increasing at the expense of saving which is of course unsustainable.

    and wire.artist, as i'm a contrarian i'll take the opposite side. if not for greedy vultures picking at the corpse of country balance sheets, who would provide the catalyst to force a country down the proper path to fiscal austerity for the sake of its citizens future?

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  • eton97
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    Originally posted by wire.artist
    If Spain fails france and germany are gonna have a feast with the remaining carcass.
    not as much of a feast as the markets will have with Italy if spain fails.....

    spain part 1 and 2 in the culture thread for anybody thats interested

    and a very very funny video explaining exactly why europe is in the shit its in.......
    Last edited by eton97; 11-30-2010, 04:45 PM.

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  • kunk75
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    consumer spending is more indicative to me of peoples desire to move on and take a BAU approach despite the economy. it's like a 300 lb woman in spandex, like, why not? nothing to hide.

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