Page 5 of 12 FirstFirst 123456789101112 LastLast
Results 81 to 100 of 225

Thread: Julius FW11

  1. #81
    Senior Member diorowen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Melbourne-Hellbourne
    Posts
    415

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lane View Post
    Part of me shares diorowens concerns. Another UNDERWORLD; or Goth_ik would have been absolutely amazing. However, I don't see anything wrong with a designer exploring himself as long as the aesthetic is still intact, which I feel it is. I as well share the sentiment that I'm glad julius abandoned a lot of its military elements (temporarily? lol), because those I think are pretty overdone at least in my eyes. This is refreshing to me.
    yeah, let's commiserate together. haha. RiP military surplus. not saying that I don't like Julius's exploration in a cleaner design though. I still like it, but its just not as I expected. and I'm quite sure, military surplus will be back sooner or later. since its one of his identity. well, I'm not that into his fw 11 though. but still love Julius!
    still trapped in my juvenile state

  2. #82
    Heirloom
    Guest

    Default

    don't worry guys, all this talk about a new direction is a bit faulty. they still have all the pieces they usually have, but it's just been used less frequent on the catwalk. Julius is all about styling, and looks like someone better in my opinion did it this year.

  3. #83

    Default

    any chance we'll get a backstage report w/ pics like last year? Would love to get a better idea on those jackets/boots...

  4. #84

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by upsilonkng View Post
    any chance we'll get a backstage report w/ pics like last year? Would love to get a better idea on those jackets/boots...
    stay tuned

  5. #85

    Default

    Looking at the above comments reflecting on this Julius collection being a departure of sorts from the formula most have begun to associate with the label, it surprises me that no one has addressed that this presentation bears resemblance to the older Julius catalog; the proposed silhouettes are reminiscent of the early designs of Horikawa. The industrial 'aggression' that permeates Julius discussion is merely one half of the pie... the other being a meditation on zen buddhism. It's the contrast and dialectic tension between these two ideas which birth the mood of Julius.

    Unfortunately, certain voices in this thread (and forum) seem intent on pigeonholing each designer into a certain 'aesthetic', perhaps attempting to compartmentalize their own perspective on dress. Calling something 'Rick' and dismissing it as derivative is uneducated and reveals a narrow mindedness that was less apparent until recent years on this forum. We are in danger of losing our intelligent discourse... we must educate ourselves with the past before we comment on the future.
    every man has inside himself a parasitic being who is acting not at all to his advantage

  6. #86

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Macro View Post
    Looking at the above comments reflecting on this Julius collection being a departure of sorts from the formula most have begun to associate with the label, it surprises me that no one has addressed that this presentation bears resemblance to the older Julius catalog; the proposed silhouettes are reminiscent of the early designs of Horikawa. The industrial 'aggression' that permeates Julius discussion is merely one half of the pie... the other being a meditation on zen buddhism. It's the contrast and dialectic tension between these two ideas which birth the mood of Julius.

    Unfortunately, certain voices in this thread (and forum) seem intent on pigeonholing each designer into a certain 'aesthetic', perhaps attempting to compartmentalize their own perspective on dress. Calling something 'Rick' and dismissing it as derivative is uneducated and reveals a narrow mindedness that was less apparent until recent years on this forum. We are in danger of losing our intelligent discourse... we must educate ourselves with the past before we comment on the future.
    This. The dialectic tension that Macro mentioned is something I've always loved, and as I mentioned in my earlier post, it's used to great effect in this collection, contrasting the clean and aggressive sides of this aesthetic.

    I love this label, and I love what they're doing. I appreciate their repurposing of the military surplus aesthetic, taking the urban survivalism associated with those clothes and pushing it as far as it can go. So what if it's been done by a lot of designers? The key for me is that no one else did it RIGHT. For my tastes, anyway. And isn't that what all of this fashion nonsense is about? Expressing yourself and your tastes?

  7. #87
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    seagulls
    Posts
    988

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Macro View Post
    Looking at the above comments reflecting on this Julius collection being a departure of sorts from the formula most have begun to associate with the label, it surprises me that no one has addressed that this presentation bears resemblance to the older Julius catalog; the proposed silhouettes are reminiscent of the early designs of Horikawa. The industrial 'aggression' that permeates Julius discussion is merely one half of the pie... the other being a meditation on zen buddhism. It's the contrast and dialectic tension between these two ideas which birth the mood of Julius.
    damn, you're spot on here.

  8. #88

    Default

    well said Macro.

    I was intending to say the same regarding earlier collections but apparently I did not. either way, to say that looks sans the ruggedness and decay is not Julius is simply untrue.
    "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

    STYLEZEITGEIST MAGAZINE | BLOG

  9. #89

    Default

    People on here just like giving Tatsuro a hard time. Having handled quite a few Julius pieces I can say that it actually isn't anything like Rick (), or Ann, or whatever.

    Julius as a label evolves with a slower pace, unlike some people (see Damir's AW11 fuck-up), and while it might seem repetitve at times, it's acutally refining what he does best.

  10. #90

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gnow View Post
    Anyone who has seen the pieces in person could confirm if the trousers are one or two piece? Also, are they available in black and white as well?
    They're one piece; the top portion is sold separately. And, because some people tend to get hung up on verbiage, I won't hasten to say "skirt", but rather, let's just call it what it really is: a layering piece.

    skirt = layering piece
    layering piece = skirt

    Case closed.

    Aside from jersey, they were also cut in leather.

    Re: if the trousers come in black: does the Pope shit in the Vatican?
    .
    .
    sain't
    .

  11. #91

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by interest1 View Post
    Re: if the trousers come in black: does the Pope shit in the Vatican?
    .

  12. #92
    kitsch killer Faust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Long hard road out of hell
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by beardown View Post
    That's a good analogy so I'll see if I can explain my opinion based on that. I'm not suggesting that Horikawa change genres at all; only that he's explored his 'vision' to the point where it feels repetitive and no longer a unique creation. Whether that's because other designers are doing what he did earlier or whether he is inspired by what the other designers are doing I'm not quite sure. But there's no doubt that it all intersects at a pretty disappointing plane as far as 'unique visions' go.

    If Trent Reznor kept putting out Pretty Hate Machine over and over and over, I'd suggest the same to him as an artist. But he had the talent and vision to uniquely explore varying approaches, even if he failed at times.

    I loved Pretty Hate Machine because even though other bands/people were doing industrial music, Trent created something that was personal and unique...less cold and sampled and typical. That was the 'vision' to take something that existed and make it his own.

    Later on, The Downward Spiral was a good album. Not a great album, but very solid and unique. Horikawa seems to be putting out The Downward Spiral over and over in a way even though other designers are also putting out their own versions of The Downward Spiral.

    That's all. I see him as a very talented, very influential designer who comes across to me as having lost some spark, vision or direction. As a designer, I have great respect for him...I'm a big fan. It's just that this line seems uninspired to me and that's a little disappointing. Clearly a lot of people like the pieces...and again, I agree it's a great presentation to be sure.

    But who wants to listen to the Downward Spiral when you can listen to Pretty Hate Machine?
    Understood (although I love the Downward Spiral, but if we move your analogy to the last few NIN records, yeah, that works for me.)

    And, who cares what upsilonking thinks? He's the Green Day of SZ.
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

  13. #93
    kitsch killer Faust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Long hard road out of hell
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lost53 View Post
    Not bad, but I am really missing the edge and rawness of previous collections. I do appreciate that with Goth, he really had pushed that button very far, so a new direction is not a surprise. But as I said with the BBS leggings... must we have the skirts?
    Well, bingo - this is where I disagree with beardown. I think this collection is softer, less aggressive than the previous ones, so there is a change of tune (for lack of a better expression!).
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

  14. #94
    kitsch killer Faust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Long hard road out of hell
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by eat me View Post
    People on here just like giving Tatsuro a hard time. Having handled quite a few Julius pieces I can say that it actually isn't anything like Rick (), or Ann, or whatever.

    Julius as a label evolves with a slower pace, unlike some people (see Damir's AW11 fuck-up), and while it might seem repetitve at times, it's acutally refining what he does best.
    Kunk is just a Rick fanboy - he gets a pass. I don't see Rick in Julius either - they are very different things.
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

  15. #95

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    Understood (although I love the Downward Spiral, but if we move your analogy to the last few NIN records, yeah, that works for me.)

    And, who cares what upsilonking thinks? He's the Green Day of SZ.
    so I'm the biggest sellout to come out of a genre which I piss all over while stealing every formula then watering down to a point where it's safe to use at Old Navy/the Gap/Target? wow that's news to me... where's my broadway version of this message then?
    another nin fan.... I guess we can't all be cutting edge everything right? CCP+PH+RO=Forest Gump, NIN, Seinfeld, Camry?

    back on the subject.. can't wait to see the showroom pics, need to know how that leather works..the one that goes across and makes a hard v, and dying to see the boots, I think a huge step up from ss11 and fw10 which I didn't get any footwear and was not that interested.
    it's softer.. maybe but not nearly as soft as neurbanvolker... I do hope that he gets back to the twisted stuff..jeans,knit denim,shirts etc.. love that super long shirt asymmetric shirt that hangs past the knee.

  16. #96
    kitsch killer Faust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Long hard road out of hell
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    The leather works like any other leather - it zips up. For a looser fit you just close the top snap.
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

  17. #97
    Senior Member diorowen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Melbourne-Hellbourne
    Posts
    415

    Default

    ^
    hehe, I believe upsilonkng wants to know more than that.

    @macro,
    thanks macro for the heads up. I personally never saw ss07 or earlier Julius collection >_<. Start seeing this label since AW 07.
    but to think about the label being in between the calmness of budha zen and aggressivity, I can't really see the aggressivity in this collection. it all looks very calm and sharp cutting design.
    which doesn't really makes me fell in love. ahaha.

    sorry for talking out of the thread, but i am curious about what do you guys think about obscur fw 2011, and in aischhe fw 2011, compared to julius fw11 in aesthetic point?

    and yeah, +1 on the point that every designer did different stuff.
    no one's copying, inspired? maybe. but designed in their own label's aesthetic.when you see it in a blink, it may be similar, but when you handle it, its 100% different(based on my own experience :p, isnt it why we did love certain designer?)
    still trapped in my juvenile state

  18. #98

    Default

    can someone that was there tell me this?
    these 2 are the same leather jackets right?


    and it looks like a rider jacket if you zip it and it looks like there are buttons on the left upper and they are in a row so you can button and have an extreme across the body look or the same as zipped but relaxed??
    is this right? if so I think as soon as I have measurements for the sz1 I will pre-order!! I hope that's the case, it's one of my favorite things about julius the ability to always wear most leathers quite a few ways as opposed to RO's zip, unzipped and 1/2 zipped. come on that's fuckin genius!! and pretty aggressive looking I might add.

  19. #99
    kitsch killer Faust's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Long hard road out of hell
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    I was there, you dummy. But I guess I'll let someone else answer you... if they feel like it.
    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

  20. #100

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by upsilonkng View Post
    can someone that was there tell me this?
    these 2 are the same leather jackets right?


    and it looks like a rider jacket if you zip it and it looks like there are buttons on the left upper and they are in a row so you can button and have an extreme across the body look or the same as zipped but relaxed??
    is this right? .
    Yes, it seems that they are the black and grey versions of the same lamb skin leather jackets, reference number is 357BLM5.
    (but please check on your own before ordering)
    The leather aspect looked different at the showroom between black and grey leathers but I saw so many items there I can not be totally sure... Black leather seemed to be a bit softer. The grey color has a beige/brownish hue in.
    You're absolutely right about the 2 main ways to wear this jacket.
    Closed, the collar meanwhile keeps a draping effect.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •