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Thread: I WASHED MY CCP FENCING LEATHER....DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME :-)

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    Default I WASHED MY CCP FENCING LEATHER....DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME :-)

    So, for a while i haven't really liked the fit of my fencing - always thought it was a sz too big and was thinking about selling....BUT....i read the booklet and it does say you can machine wash....

    so i thought 'what the hell'.....limited downside, and decided to gamble and machine wash it.

    In hindsight i wish i had taken photos throughout the process..........

    So, yesterday was a baking hot 28 degrees and this is what i did:

    - i pulled the sleeves through body, turned inside out, zipped up from inside (so the jacket was completely inside out)

    - put in washing machine. 60 degrees, (but I suppose if you don't want shrinkage you could do a cold wash).

    - I used maximum spin (1200 revs) otherwise the jacket is completely soaked at the end and will take a month to dry

    - when finished, I took it out, laid flat, and looked over the leather. The zippers leave some imprints, but as the leather is wet and spongey you just run your fingers over them and they disappear immediately.

    Ps I still have black fingers today from doing it.

    - then i straighten out all the internal pockets etc while wet

    - buy 10 copies of you biggest newspaper because you need loads of paper, and separate all the pages

    - then stuffed the arms and shoulders first so they resemble the exact shape and creases i wanted. Then i did the whole body, zipped up and continued.

    I spent quite a lot of time doing this and stuffing it quite full.

    Quite a hard process but it should resemble this when finished.



    - then i left in the direct sun on a towel until the front was hard baked and dry (2-3 hrs) turned it over and did the same on the back.

    - Then emptied the carcass of all paper and left to dry open for another hour or two in direct sun until the inside was dry.

    - at this point the jacket is baked pretty solid and can stand up entirely on it's own. (Colour is matt and like colour 19 but darker)........but it does soften up quite quickly when handled....

    - I considered leaving it like this, matt and grey, but the wife preferred it oiled.

    - so used this product (bought in france in one of the department stores) to oil the whole thing with a sponge.



    Took an hour or so, but the jacket returned completely to its original black colour with the oiling, became silky again, but retained a much more structured and thicker feeling leather.

    I adore it. If anything it feels like a brand new jacket but in a much nicer, more durable and strong leather.

    But this comes with big big big warnings. It's is far far more like as sz46

    Old measurements:

    P2P: 50.5cm
    S2S: 47cm
    Length ex collar: 65.5c
    Width at very bottom: 54cm

    New measurements:

    P2P: 47.5cm
    S2S: 43.5cm
    Length ex collar: 63cm
    Width at very bottom: 50cm

    So substantial shrinkage

    Before and after shots:

    Before


    After


    Leather details





    The front zip is a bit more wavy like the zips on the tornadoes and on my bison, as the leather has shrunk a touch more than the zipper, which makes it look more poell IMO.


    I LOVE IT, AND ITS THE PERFECT SPRING SUMMER JACKET.....OPINIONS, QUESTIONS WELCOME, BUT I DID IT AS DESCRIBED

    THERE IS A MORAL TO THIS STORY, BUT I CAN'T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON IT, SUFFICE TO SAY THAT SOMETIMES, JUST SOMETIMES THOSE BIG STUPID RISKS YOU TAKE, PAY OFF
    Last edited by eton97; 01-14-2012 at 11:33 AM.
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    Really well done it seem like the shoulder area are perfect on you now.
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    Fit is perfect now imo and you proved once again to be one of the bravest mofos in SZland.
    I would have died a thousand times during the process!

    EDIT: Would love to hear some insides of the leather specialists like Zamb or Chinorlz.
    I still don't get how the leather or the dye didn't take any damage while being washed at 60 degrees.
    I even only wash most of my cotton t-shirts cold. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic View Post
    Really well done it seem like the shoulder area are perfect on you now.
    i kinda guessed i was a size down and notoriousT lent me his sz46, and its fit me better but was a touch too tight....but you can see it fits (imo) far better now.....feel like ive just found eur4k in the washing machine...just wasn't enjoying it before
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNotoriousT View Post
    Fit is perfect now imo and you proved once again to be one of the bravest mofos in SZland.
    I would have died a thousand times during the process!
    dude - i felt like i died a thousand times through each indiviual process..watching the jacket spinning in the drum was the worst....

    but since purchasing the sz50 dead-end jeans i realise that i'm not fat, i've just got enormous balls
    Last edited by eton97; 01-14-2012 at 12:53 PM.
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    edit: i'm a very bored guy on 3 months holiday before i start my new job. i have a screaming 8 week old baby and i am going a bit nuts....i also can be reckless and I gamble.

    I cannot be held repsonsible for any fuck-ups when everybody starts machine washing their ccp leathers......it was a stupid thing to do and i was lucky that it paid off on a jacket i should have bought in a smaller size.....

    i suppose the moral of the story is don't wear Eur4000 jackets when feeding babies, and try to buy them in the right size originally......
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    Doesn't the oil leave the jacket sticky? can you handle it now without getting dye/oil all over your hands?

    Definitely looks better now, I would have never had the balls to do it, especially at 60 degrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miserableman View Post
    Doesn't the oil leave the jacket sticky? can you handle it now without getting dye/oil all over your hands?

    Definitely looks better now, I would have never had the balls to do it, especially at 60 degrees.
    no residue whatsoever, no sticky feeling - its perfect.....the wax stuff is amazing - i got it 3yrs ago from Gallerie Lafayette in Paris.....i put it only thinly with a sponge and it just sinks in...no polishing, nothing
    Last edited by eton97; 06-27-2011 at 07:52 AM.
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    nah man, the moral is that life's too short for letting fear stop you doin what u do. big kudos on the big cojones.

    ps. i think i might have a jar of that same brand somewhere. but i think mine is more like a really soft wax/'mink oil'? i use it on leather that seems thirsty and that i wanna soften, not on anything i wanna keep stiff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shucks View Post
    nah man, the moral is that life's too short for letting fear stop you doin what u do. big kudos on the big cojones.

    ps. i think i might have a jar of that same brand somewhere. but i think mine is more like a really soft wax/'mink oil'? i use it on leather that seems thirsty and that i wanna soften, not on anything i wanna keep stiff...
    Exactly. But the jacket needed that after the baking. It was so hard if I picked it up with my finger tips it stayed exactly the same shape as if it were being worn. The wax returned it to it's previous shine and beauty but the leather is definitely more rigid than originally and feels thicker for some reason. feels like a thin version of HOIL or a stiff JUICY
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    this thread = instant legend

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    this is amazing and terrible (now there are terrible thoughts in my head telling me to wash my intarsia). setting my potential fuck ups aside, the jacket definitely fits better now eton. love the wavy zipper

    would also like to hear some thoughts from people w. leather expertise

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    Quote Originally Posted by eton97 View Post
    edit: i'm a very bored guy on 3 months holiday before i start my new job. i have a screaming 8 week old baby and i am going a bit nuts....i also can be reckless and I gamble.

    I cannot be held repsonsible for any fuck-ups when everybody starts machine washing their ccp leathers......it was a stupid thing to do and i was lucky that it paid off on a jacket i should have bought in a smaller size..........
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    I will go to bed tonight with the sound of a thousand leather jackets on spin cycles, and wake to the sound of tears.

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    Looks much better on you now D, the finish on the leather looks nicer too .

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    thanks raw - the finish is definitely better imo - i can't quite work out what it is about it....its almost like the texture of a brand new roo ccp leather - quite crunchy and eggshell in polish rather than shiny or matt......the leather also feels thicker and more structured....the old one just flopped around and swamped me, and the leather seemed 'limp' and boring for a ccp...
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    Don't know what to make of the washing instructions of my derbies, so thanks for trying. I won't do it with shoes now.

    The leather definitely looks better than before. On question though, can you still close it? The gap between the two sides of the zipper looks pretty wide.

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    I heard a story about somebody doing it to a pair of derbies that ended up being given to aterlier for their window display as they ended up like bricks.
    I think because KALB is relatively thin, you can get away with it.....i would not for example ever consider washing the horse classic.....

    I can do it up and will post a pic - bloody tight, but I sometimes feel its a bit 'too' statement done all the way up, and as its a lighter weight and therefore spring/summer jacket, i wanted to wear it undone and relaxed with just a t-shirt...thats why i bought it...also this will eventually loosen up like all leathers and will mold perfectly to my shape

    In its old form, open looked (i felt) silly and felt way too big - it did the jacket no justice...now its perfect.

    Also I had a big issue with the flared arms, which have now shrunk to a perfect narrow cylinders

    Done up it is no tighter than my 09 horse classic, and thats another i prefer to wear open...
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    washing leather jackets isnt as difficult as you might think, and it really wont damage the leather too much,

    pure water is fine on leather, even in a washing machine, the objective is to avoid soaps or of you want to use soap use a really mild liquid detergent and very little of it. this is so because the dye might react with the soap to create some unsightly streaks and discoloration on the leather, but water will not affect the dye that much.

    yes, shrinkage is indeed a problem with washing leathers, but one trick is to wait til the garment is about 90% dry and wear it around for a couple of hours so as to limit the shrinkage because it will stretch while wet, but next to impossible when dry............you also get some really interesting ripples in the leather by doing this

    I have been experimenting alotwith washing treatments, especially this season..............

    Good for you Eton, im all for personalizing ones clothing regardless of the cost
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    Quote Originally Posted by zamb View Post
    yes, shrinkage is indeed a problem with washing leathers, but one trick is to wait til the garment is about 90% dry and wear it around for a couple of hours so as to limit the shrinkage because it will stretch while wet, but next to impossible when dry............you also get some really interesting ripples in the leather by doing this
    cheers Zamb - interesting to read a professional opinion.

    its funny you say that about wet vs dry - when i took it out of the machine i actually tried it on and thought nothing had happened...in fact it was even bigger than when i put it in...

    Once i'd stuffed it with paper, i didn't touch it again until the front was baked dry and then i could feel how much the shrinking skin had compressed the paper stuffing.....

    I really enjoyed the experiment once i'd got it in my head the the leather was ruined anyway.....but doing the washing/stuffing/drying/polishing makes you feel part of the jacket in a strange kind of way - i can imagine thats whats makes designers love their work
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    you are a true baller. i could never risk ruining such an expensive piece :[

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