How to remove possible stain from CCP leather?

[church of tiamat]

Yes, I'm rather restrictive when it comes to washing my clothes (i.e. pants, jackets, knits etc). I prefer to have them aired, maybe brushed a bit. So dry cleaning is a big step for me.

Unfortunately the leather guy couldn't answer how the dry cleaning process would affect the jacket, namely because he didn't do it himself, he had a guy who picked up the clothes once a week and took them out of town for his special treatment.

Maybe you should ask this leather guy for this cleaning guy's phone number and call him for more details? Especially when it comes to cleaning that expensive jacket being very careful is always a good move.

[destroymebaby]

Yeah, that's a good advice.

[cjbreed]

from what i was told by my dry cleaner there are only a handful of qualified specialty leather cleaners. i am in dallas and the garment i had cleaned was sent to chicago and was there for at least 2 weeks.

[destroymebaby]

from what i was told by my dry cleaner there are only a handful of qualified specialty leather cleaners. i am in dallas and the garment i had cleaned was sent to chicago and was there for at least 2 weeks.

This leather specialist is considered to be the best in Stockholm and the fact that they only use this particular dry cleaner from a small town outside Stockholm indicates that he is good, but I still have to find out more about him before trusting him with CCP.

[church of tiamat]

This leather specialist is considered to be the best in Stockholm and the fact that they only use this particular dry cleaner from a small town outside Stockholm indicates that he is good, but I still have to find out more about him before trusting him with CCP.

If it's so then I think it will be fine and he'll help you. Anyway, still be careful.

[destroymebaby]

Got this pm:

If you bought the CCP from luket I hope you were told about the stain before hand. You mention that the seller put it in a body bag to ship and didn't know how it got there which sounds like he didn't notice it before hand? I remember someone posting about finding a stain like that in the leather care thread at the bottom here:

http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...t=2817&page=11

I answered:

Yes, I bought it from luket and he never told me about the stain. All he said before shipment (but after I paid him), was that the leather got a bit dusty when he put it in the body bag, but that a wipe would get the dust off. I was told that the leather was as new, in perfect condition etc and paid with that in mind. Now he suggest that I might have dropped something on the leather, causing the stain myself...

Apparently the seller has discussed this stain some weeks ago, just before he contacted me (after seeing my wtb in sufu). But now he acts as if he doesn't even know what I'm talking about.

He writes:

Has it somehow leaked dye? Did you drop an acidic liquid or something on it?

Then:

I have no idea what to tell you, I literally never used the pockets and checked that they were empty before posting the jacket to you, and nothing was amiss.

Then:

I really don't know what to tell you as that wasn't there when I posted it! Was the package wet at all when you received it? My only guess is that it somehow was scuffed in the body bag? My suggestion would be to get it too a leather specialist/cleaner/restorer to see what they say? My apologies I've never seen this, nor dealt with bison leather before...

And just recently:

Have you stored it in a humid enviroment?

[destroymebaby]

By the way, should I ask for a refund? Would I be entitled to one, I mean if I address this issue with paypal? I sure as hell didn't pay him as a gift, just in case anything like this would happen.

Come to think of it the seller was quite eager that I'd just pay it as a gift...

Or maybe I should take these questions to another thread...

[church of tiamat]

Link that you've posted doesn't seem to work btw.

If you're unhappy with that jacket then go for it and try to get refund, or just maybe partial refund if you would like to keep this jacket. I'll start by just trying to solve this case with seller.

[destroymebaby]

Sorry.

Here it is:

http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...t=2817&page=11

Apparently Luket posted pictures of the jacket that he then removed, replacing them with the word Sorted (maybe it meant Never mind - I've sold it).

But judging from the replies from Chinorlz it's the exact same stain.

[Raw]

Yes it was the exact same stain/problem. Very dishonest of him...

[destroymebaby]

I've now sent him this very polite message, hoping to be able to settle things in a civilized manner:

Hey, People on SZ has informed me that you've had exactly the same problem with what appears to be the very same jacket. Chinorlz advised you to take it to a leather specialist to see what they had to say about how affected the leather beneath the whiteness (presuming mold) was. What did the leather specialists say?

[destroymebaby]

His answer:

No not the same leather, that's why I initially thought it was mold as it's happened on my current leather. However that leather was kept in a bag and in my closet for a month then did develope mold. Your one however wasn't kept in a bag nor left for more then a week. (I owned it for 2) With my molded jacket I just dry cleaned it and haven't had any issues. But given that those specialists you went said it wasn't mold I don't know?

Don't know whether to believe him or not.

[church of tiamat]

One very important question, there weren't any white stains visible on pics while you were buying this jacket, am I right?

[destroymebaby]

No, but the close-ups of the jacket didn't show that particular area, just other details. There was one pic of the whole jacket, but that was a small pic, blurry, with bad resolution and lighting that made the jacket shiny. It didn't say anything, other than the jackets had its arms intact.

And the spot becomes almost invisible for several minutes when is has been wetted. So it's probably easy to hide in a cell phone pic.

[church of tiamat]

According to that I suppose that the seller knew what he was selling and the spot was there before. Tbh it's almos invisible for it to appear during shipping.

[destroymebaby]

Absolutely. My guess is that it is some sort of mold, and it's obvious that is has been there for a while.

[destroymebaby]

By the way, the spot smells very bad; it's some sort of intense sweet stench. It fills my small apartment.

[Chinorlz]

By the way, the spot smells very bad; it's some sort of intense sweet stench. It fills my small apartment.

So the seller is saying that he had two of the same CCP jackets with a white stain greater on the inside than on the outside on the anterior portion of the right pocket with the stain traversing the lining to the leather on the inside and penetrating outwards to the outer shell of the jacket?

Looks like the same stain that I (and others on here) had commented on and attempted to assist the original owner with a week or two ago.

[cjbreed]

His answer:

No not the same leather, that's why I initially thought it was mold as it's happened on my current leather. However that leather was kept in a bag and in my closet for a month then did develope mold. Your one however wasn't kept in a bag nor left for more then a week. (I owned it for 2) With my molded jacket I just dry cleaned it and haven't had any issues. But given that those specialists you went said it wasn't mold I don't know?
Don't know whether to believe him or not.

i don't know luket but thats a highly unlikely story. i would be pushing for a full or partial refund asap.

not disclosing a stain on a t shirt is dubious but forgivable. on a ccp leather its downright cruel and the financial impact is quite substantial. i would be enraged

[destroymebaby]

So the seller is saying that he had two of the same CCP jackets with a white stain greater on the inside than on the outside on the anterior portion of the right pocket with the stain traversing the lining to the leather on the inside and penetrating outwards to the outer shell of the jacket?

Looks like the same stain that I (and others on here) had commented on and attempted to assist the original owner with a week or two ago.

That's the official story. Two identical jackets with the exact same stain on the exact same places. I'm sorry but I find it hard, not to say impossible, to believe.