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  • Mail-Moth
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1448

    Shakespeare's Winter's Tale, translated by Koltès. Young Mamilius is the only one to die, a short time after he whispered in his mother's ear a sad tale about winter, from which we only know the first words. Then comes Leonce's madness and the rest. At the end of the play - if we except Antigonus, who was weak enough to sacrify innocence and for this reason rightfully punished - Mamilius alone is dead. We did not even hear about him again since he did.

    For me that is genius. And deeply moving. For all that happens from the moment he tells the unheard story and then is said to be dying thus appears as a dream, a tale, a blurry vision taking root either in childhood's fantasies or in ghastly shadows bordering death. Those tribulations, in the end, ar as unreal as the merry conclusion that comes to redeem them : nothing ever happened - but this child disappearing in his own narration.
    Last edited by Mail-Moth; 12-26-2009, 04:39 AM.
    I can see a hat, I can see a cat,
    I can see a man with a baseball bat.

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    • Faust
      kitsch killer
      • Sep 2006
      • 37849

      Never read this one, Mail-Moth. Sounds like I must.
      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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      • Mail-Moth
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1448

        The first time I did - that was years ago already - I was in a reading frenesy and because of that hardly noticed the death of this child Mamilius ; or rather, I didn't feel the importance of those few lines where the title of the plays finds its sense. So the whole thing sounded to me as a mere tragicomedy, rather annoying in its second half.

        I was just going out of Hamlet then ; that may be an explanation.
        I can see a hat, I can see a cat,
        I can see a man with a baseball bat.

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        • Faust
          kitsch killer
          • Sep 2006
          • 37849

          /\ Ha! So, a few minutes after you posted I picked up Humboldt's Gift, and what do I read on the page where I left off yesterday?! "He knew the jealousy of King Leontes in The Winter's Tale." Don't you love these coincidences that knit the universe together?!
          Last edited by Faust; 12-26-2009, 10:55 AM.
          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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          • Mail-Moth
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1448

            Sure I do !
            I can see a hat, I can see a cat,
            I can see a man with a baseball bat.

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            • crckhs
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 3

              though that doesn't really stand up to all those classics posted by you guys I'm pretty excited to start dfw's infinite jest.

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              • Fade to Black
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 5340

                read the title story of Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried, finally. Had to stop reading the book after that one for now, it was too much. One of the best short stories I've ever read, though.
                www.matthewhk.net

                let me show you a few thangs

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                • Faust
                  kitsch killer
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 37849

                  /\ Word! The other ones are not as good, but definitely worth reading.
                  Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                  StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                  • reborn
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 833

                    just picked up "Seeing" by J. Saramago. I've read "Blindness" and "All of the Names"...hoping "Seeing" is as good.

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                    • Faust
                      kitsch killer
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 37849

                      What did you think of Blindness? Have it on the shelve, but haven't gotten to it yet.
                      Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                      StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                      • reborn
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 833

                        It's a great read...simple, yet sophisticated.

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                        • Tumnus Truck-Tour
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 132

                          reading the csound manual.

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                          • Tyler
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 24

                            I'm reading House of Leaves at the moment.

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                            • galia
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1702

                              ha. the story of house of leaves was ok in a sort of stephen king way, but the pretentiousness of the whole concept was slightly gross. I guess it's a page-turner and knows how to keep you interested so I read it to the end, while being incredibly annoyed. odd book

                              I just finished reading German Autumn by Stig Dagerman. the man is fast becoming one of my favourite writers. This book is the result of a series of articles SD wrote as a correspondant in Germany in 1946. It's a bit like Germany Year Zero in book form, incredibly haunting and sad. However, it's probably more devoid of partisanism than rossellini's film, which makes it more interesting to me. Dagerman isn't defending nazis, far from it, but he denounces the suffering of the whole people and the utter and shocking mismanagement of the country by the allied forces. a truly interesting and beautiful read.

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                              • todestrieb
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 239

                                ^ I desperately need to re-visit some Dagerman.

                                Now reading:

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