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10-30-2009, 05:37 PM
thread buried

SZ photo post: http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4255

camera / technical discussion: http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3053

10-30-2009, 05:41 PM


philip nod
10-30-2009, 06:02 PM
I started the bulletin board thread which iirc served the same purpose

10-30-2009, 07:00 PM
hmm.. well I tried to make a distinction in the first post, not sure of it makes sense?

10-30-2009, 07:08 PM
my flickr :


http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6500/ccf1709200900019.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/ccf1709200900019.jpg/)

philip nod
10-30-2009, 07:10 PM
hmm.. well I tried to make a distinction in the first post, not sure of it makes sense?

art of photography sounds a little pretentious

philip nod
10-30-2009, 07:12 PM
bulletin board gives the sense that an image has meaning to it's author in some form, whereas a nice sunset does not equate to art

10-31-2009, 03:41 AM
art of photography sounds a little pretentious

thats why I said "so called". but I will try and rephrase it just for you [tongue]

the bulletin thread has, at a quick glance, camera phone pictures, funny pictures (guy wearing a cat as a hat) and photos with clearly limited quality, which I think the thread is good for if I understood the point of it correctly. posting pictures that feature something interesting that you want to share

however I would like a thread dedicated to photographs that were taken with the intention of capturing a visually impressive image, like snaf simons above, not a realistic rendering of a situation or something randomly interesting.

am I being too meticulous?

philip nod
10-31-2009, 11:07 AM
yes you are [lol]

snaf has also linked an entire flikr thread which smells like a bulletin board to me.

as stated, this is a fashion forum, not a photography forum. and to engineer a thread designed to capture "high quality" "artful" images is almost the same as the DIY forum calling its stuff ready to wear.

10-31-2009, 11:09 AM
Maybe we can link the two, but put Lowrey's rules on the front page? Well, you know, it will go haywire anyway. [lol]

10-31-2009, 11:50 AM


couple of pics to share..

10-31-2009, 01:07 PM
photography for the sake of photography, rather than documentation

photojournalism and art photography are, arguably, two different things.

philip nod
10-31-2009, 03:48 PM
Maybe we can link the two, but put Lowrey's rules on the front page? Well, you know, it will go haywire anyway. [lol]

as long its my thread title [wall][lol]

i remember mortalveener came correct out of nowhere with lots of talented work.

10-31-2009, 05:10 PM
I posted my website ages ago, but I only have a very narrow selection on there.

these are pictures i did for a friends lookbook


that's it for now.

11-01-2009, 03:07 AM



I have a little photoblog at www.brillwill.com/blog that I try to update daily, just cause it keeps me shooting.

Love your work Heirloom, wish I had a studio and a better selection of strobes.

11-01-2009, 04:02 AM
thanks. I don't have a studio though. and nowadays no strobes either. these pictures are mostly natural light, but the few flash photos use a speedlite bounced off an umbrella or a wall/cieling.

11-01-2009, 08:17 AM

Fade to Black
11-01-2009, 10:41 AM
i love the way you shoot women, heirloom.


11-02-2009, 08:26 AM
fade i really like this ^

Fade to Black
11-02-2009, 09:09 AM
thanks, snaf. that was taken on the aftermath of a typhoon 8 night if i remember correct.

01-12-2011, 06:02 AM
OK, kind of realise this is not the correct thread, but...
We are looking for a photographer to do a shoot with us in New York in the first week of Feb. It's for a fashion brand, more specifically for their website, and more specifically for their e Store.
What we want to do is experiment a bit with what we can do to convey the textures and fabrics of the clothing in photos and moving image, we need a mix of close-ups and full body shots on models. We are trying to steer clear from the plain look of the LVRs, LN-CCs or oki-ni's (although I think there's nothing wrong with them, just doesn't sit well with the brand in question) and inject a bit more soul into the images, while still giving a good representation of the actual pieces.
If you are interested, or if you know someone who might be, please PM me with portfolios.


01-13-2011, 04:25 PM
i was wondering if this would every pop up..... would be interested to hear what kind of camera, film people are using. i'm a camera dork...
and i surely hope there's no one on here that's gonna bring that "it doesn't matter what kind of camera you use" stuff in here....that's my biggest pet peeve right behind people who say "you don't eat your crust?! that's the best part!" when i don't eat my pizza crust. because....no....that's not the best part.

01-13-2011, 05:10 PM
I mostly shoot digital cause film's getting a bit too expensive. I've used almost every model up the Canon EOS line because I've been forced to borrow cameras from friends everytime I have a shoot recently. But I agree, there definitely is a point where the camera does begin to matter.

Fade to Black
01-13-2011, 05:17 PM
I mostly shoot with a Canon 5D Mark II, it has proven to be especially effective lately with my series of trees becuse i'm a horrible obsessive-compulsive and the shots have to be so precise there can't be a 1 mm margin of error; a little bit that way, and the picture is gone...i find this to be the case with my general habit/style of photographing. Shooting film I look for 'wider' shots, although I am generally a photographer of things further up close, but in doing so I am more likely to end up with a shot I want. When shooting film, since it's not digital and there's no playback, I never take more than one photo of a thing otherwise i'll go crazy.

For film I am still shooting an old Contax TVS II point and shoot, eventually I hope to be working with medium format which is probably as big as i'll go since i shoot handheld and generally don't like the tripod approach because i'm too restless and always shooting on the go.

01-13-2011, 06:15 PM
that 5d is a nice camera. I most recently shot with a Canon EOS-1D Mark IV and that thing was grrreat. Just sold my contax g2 and i miss it dearly so i am looking to either replace it with the silver version or save up for an M6. Now I am using an older, cheaper 35mm = Canon A1, and it gives pretty good results. Still thinking about getting a tiny digital for random street stuff. leica or ricoh.

Fade to Black
01-13-2011, 06:23 PM
the 1D Mark IV is a huge camera, i've never held it but it looks heavy

01-13-2011, 06:29 PM
I use a Nikon D3 which has been my trusted friend since July 2008. I still find it amazing to be able to shoot in almost pitch dark surroundings with acceptable results. Since I shoot in a variety of places, I find this very very helpful. As for lenses, I shoot with 24mm, 50mm, and 85mm primes. I've always been a prime lens type of guy although I do have a 12-24mm DX lens that I use now and then (above 18mm it is usable on an FX camera).

For video, I have a Canon Powershot S95 (very spiffy little cam) and a shared Canon 7D which I use for making shorts with my cousin.

I almost always use Lightroom 3 for my editing, with things like piecing and layering in CS4 once in awhile. Lightroom 3 is such a powerful tool and I can recommend it to every photographer, amateur or professional.

Fade to Black
01-13-2011, 09:40 PM
i think the Nikon D3 may have much better colors than the Canon 5D MII, it's likely also a better indoors/studio camera.

01-16-2011, 03:07 AM
I am trying to get into photography but I am just experiencing a lack of technical / theoretical knowledge... Is there any book you guys can recommend me to start with?

01-16-2011, 03:58 AM
are you looking for an introduction specifically to digital photography or DSLR's?

01-16-2011, 06:17 AM
To digital photography in general.
I do not own a DSLR but a Panasonic Lumix DMC-TC10. While this is of course no professional camera I am still trying to get out of it what's possible and as I trust the person who made me the gift that he didn't select a bad camera at all...
It is kind of hard to articulate what I am looking for, I know. It's just about technical basics, e.g. how to adjust exposure and whatever the possibilities are to the motive and what I have to care about when taking photos.
While I always enjoyed photography, I did never get further than a subjective aesthetical approach which is - of course - rather implicit. Problem is I cannot tell what characterizes a 'good photo' and thus cannot change settings or whatever purposeful when having a certain motive in mind.

Sorry for the bad english, I hope that makes things a bit clearer [cry]

01-16-2011, 06:59 AM
I learnt a great deal off wikipedia actually...especially technical basics

01-16-2011, 07:55 AM
It's just about technical basics, e.g. how to adjust exposure and whatever the possibilities are to the motive and what I have to care about when taking photos.

ok, for this, I'd reccomend reading the following:

from here: ISO, shutter speed, aperture, white balance. these are the most important settings and even though the tutorials are intended for DSLR's, the settings are pretty universal and sohuld be found on most point and shoot cameras with manual settings. unfortunately their sample pictures seem broken at the moment.

this site has info on both the theoretical (composition, cropping, lighting) as well as the technical side of taking photos.

here is one decent writeup of manual settings on a DSLR: http://lifehacker.com/328488/master-your-dslr-camera-part-2-manual-mode-and-more

also, from the Cameras thread, this is for a Canon, but should apply to most cameras with manual settings:

crash course on the different modes:

full auto, will use flash if necessary

as syed described, semi-automatic, flash can be selected manually. you can choose the following (by pressing FUNC.SET):

ISO = light sensitivity, roughly put ISO100 for daylight, 400 for well lit inside, 800 and upwards for dim lighting (1600 is already quite grainy)
white balance = auto works in daylight, but in dim lighting tungsten (light bulb) is good (otherwise the image is yellow/orange)

full manual, in addition to the above, you can most importantly control aperture and shutter speed.

aperture: controlled by ring around lens by default, changes how much light is let through the lens. lower F number = more light coming in, shorter range of focus. in low light conditions you'd want to use the lowest aperture, if you focus on something close by, the background will be blurred. high F number = wider range of focus.

shutter speed: controlled by the small ring dial next to the screen. slow shutter will let more light in, but anything under 1/20 can be difficult to shoot by hand (shaking blurs image). use lower speed for dim light, higher when there is more light as well as capturing moving objects.


lets you choose aperture, and will adjust shutter automatically. useful if you specifically want short focus range (background blur) etc.


opposite as AV - lets you choose the shutter speed, and adjusts aperture accordingly. useful if you need a specific shutter speed, for example higher to capture moving objects. personally, I use Av much more often.

there are of course other features, but these are the most essential ones needed for every shot.

01-16-2011, 08:22 AM
Thank you very much [thumbup]

02-09-2011, 07:07 AM
please resize and use the "sz bulletin board" thread to post photos

Fade to Black
02-09-2011, 07:38 AM
you need to resize your images, those are too big.

02-09-2011, 09:07 AM
a few shots from my humble collection -- always a learning process!
shot with iso400 film on either the minolta 7s, olympus om-1(n), or kiev 88cm (which i believe might be 400 for bw positives but 100 for color positives)
except the rain droplets and the through-viewfinder on my blackberry [lol]


Fade to Black
02-09-2011, 09:13 AM
the second and third last shots, and the first are really good

02-09-2011, 10:06 AM
thanks ! i get better results with a tripod and when not shooting while walking in over-crowded city at night [lol]

02-11-2011, 03:05 AM
Here is one image from a series I shot last week.
There is no photoshop, this is "as shot".


02-11-2011, 03:32 AM
something that doesn't significantly mess up the forum layout, around 650-700 pixels wide max.

also, this thread is more about photography discussion, the "SZ bulletin board" serves as a photo post.

02-11-2011, 11:06 AM
this thread is for showcasing photographs taken by you, whether its film, digital or polaroid. topic is free but lets stick to the so called art of photography as we have other threads for randomness and funny pics etc..

er discussion?
Perhaps I missed the point but you say quite clearly this is
"or showcasing photographs taken by you"

02-11-2011, 02:12 PM
that was the initial point, but it got turned down as the bulletin board already excisted. but yea, the original post is obviously confusing, I should probably edit it.

02-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
I do think it is a strong idea (the original thread), why not do a discussion thread separate.
As an image should (if executed well) speak for its self.

Fade to Black
02-21-2011, 06:20 AM
am getting frustrated with the film printing process...no matter what can't seem to completely get a clean print with no dust marks on it. any suggestions for film cleaning to get an immaculate print?

i can't even find a spot pen in this town....

02-21-2011, 10:44 AM
i've embraced the dust and incorporate it in my thoughts before taking a shot [tongue]

02-21-2011, 07:47 PM
am getting frustrated with the film printing process...no matter what can't seem to completely get a clean print with no dust marks on it. any suggestions for film cleaning to get an immaculate print?

i can't even find a spot pen in this town....

Where are you printing? Here's an article re dust (http://www.halfhill.com/dust.html) I found useful myself (as well as a bunch of other useful articles including one on personalizing your film speed).

david s
02-21-2011, 08:03 PM
@ FTB : so from past experience

after developing the film, do not squeqee the film, I don't know the technical term for the tool that is used but it will scratch the emulsion side, the wetting agent should take care of this
make sure you dry in a closed drying closet & do not open until it is dry. Opening a drying closet will allow dust to get into it drying closet and it will get caked to your negatives
once dry cut and store as soon as possible
when you use the negative you can use a cleaning solution on it. I usually only do this when I am doing a high resolution scan of the negative for archiving purposes, the cleaning agent will eventually damage the negative itself
if you are using an enlarger used compressed air to blow off dust

Finally it is the nature of the beast, really the only time you might get a dust free print is the first time you use the negative and your enlarger has been cleaned really well.

Fade to Black
02-21-2011, 08:44 PM
thanks for your comments guys...i will go look for a can of compressed air before i head off to print later today. Am printing in the school darkroom since it's my only access to an enlarger/dark room so I am sure that is affecting the cleanliness of the prints/negative.

Am just wondering because normally when you look at exhibitions/photography collection books the film prints look absolutely flawless, unlike your usual amateur DIY print. Wonder how they do it.

02-22-2011, 04:47 PM
you don't want to use compressed air on film or glass (lenses). the pressure is too strong and if it leaks, it will stain whatever you spray. don't blow on it either or risk spitting..

use a hand-squeeze puffer and an anti-static brush. if it's surface gunk, re-wash or soak in pec-12.

spotone was a great archival spotting ink but they don't make that anymore. spot pens suck, it's like spotting with crayons and it's not archival. marshalls and other inks are not proven to be archival either so stay away from them.

brush spotting is very difficult. you need a super fine tip brush and gently work on layering tone the size of a grain of sand while wearing magnefying glasses, but it's the only way to properly spot a silver print.

also know that spotting RC is close to impossible, do it on fiber exhibition prints.

or print digitally and photoshop the dust out..

Fade to Black
02-22-2011, 09:40 PM
yeah i ended up getting an anti-static brush and just using my hand-squeeze air pump, the results are better. it's just satin RC paper for practice right now...

02-22-2011, 10:45 PM
matt, make sure you are using gloves when handling fixer and chemistry, it's all toxic.

do you have access to a color darkroom?

i've spent many hours in front of a kreonite machine waiting for crappy prints to come out but man, it was the best time i've had in the dark. b+w is ok, but it's so much fun making c-prints...

Fade to Black
02-22-2011, 11:26 PM
Thanks for the gloves comment, I appreciate it.

don't have access to a color dark room hence i am shooting and printing all b/w right now; the school facilities are somewhat subpar due to massive misuse by students in general, and yet this and the Chinese University are the 2 most well known remaining places in Hong Kong where there is somewhat of a public communal darkroom! Furtheremore there are only a few enlargers left that go up to 16 X 20 and they[re about to be thrown out...lol

Need to figure out how to develop/access a more complete darkroom environment especially once i graduate and/if i continue working in this area. Maybe need to rent a studio and the building of it is going to be a pain in the butt...do you have your own studio/darkroom?

02-23-2011, 06:48 AM
no i had to opportunity to build a pro-darkroom with little money but it never materialized.

schools usually have limited to no darkroom facilities but if you wanted to, you can make a bathroom (given it has proper ventilation) light tight and place an enlarger on the floor and use the tub for holding and washing prints. build a shelf above that to store 3 trays (developer, stop, fixer)

film processing requires only a sink with running water.

or if you shoot large format, you can just do contact prints. no enlarger required, just a contact print frame, a light, and a timer.

shame you are in hk, i gave away and have access to a lot of darkroom equipment..

you should also pick up on henry horensteins b+w manuals. it's an illustrated guide to beginner and intermediate printing and equipment.