The Raf Simons watch / towel / keychain / fail

[lowrey]

wow, that was a mindfuck equivalent of the T Magazine Rick Owens video

[Heirloom]

I think the new website is brilliant. I wish his clothes reflected what's on the site. the music is absolutely amazing. pretty much all of my favourite songs are in there.

[zamb]

Dont know if this was ever posted,
but it should answer all the questions.......................

Going to add it to the Quotes thread......

"I never want to be independent any more. Ever. Ever . . . If you want to work alone, become an artist. Fashion is about working in a team."- Raf Simons

[almroth]

The new raf simons website is somewhat strange. Go on the archive section and I guarentee you will almost have an epileptic fit.

http://www.rafsimons.com/collections/ss-10/

seriously wtf?

hahaha, it was hilarious. and needless to say im not laughing with raf..

[Sombre]

Dont know if this was ever posted,
but it should answer all the questions.......................

Going to add it to the Quotes thread......

"I never want to be independent any more. Ever. Ever . . . If you want to work alone, become an artist. Fashion is about working in a team."- Raf Simons

It certainly does. Though it begs the question of how he carried on for so long with his previous aesthetic; because to me that aesthetic reflects the mind of a highly independent individual, rather than a part of a team. So, assuming my assumption is valid, how does one make such a drastic change in one's career?

[Faust]

What the hell is this?

[syed]

^ Man juice on denim...the "Spent" series. There is actually a collection of artworks in the East Wing of Somerset House at the moment called "Spent". To be blunt, the artist ejaculated onto litmus paper. They actually look pretty interesting, so people do stop to look, but once they read the wall label their reactions are quite funny to see.

[kucejoe]

Oh fuck; 1. the FW11/12 collection will be produced (I thought having to take a break / refocus could have been good for him) 2. a "heritage" line 3. a homewares line. Arrgh.

A few years ago I would have dared to think this could turn out well / interesting. Now...fuck you Raf...straight to this thread:

And here's a little behind-the-scenes industry news that's kind of rocking our world this morning: WWD is reporting that Raf Simons will be taking sales appointments in New York this season—and, in addition to men's wear, he'll be hawking heritage and homewares. What? Raf Simons homewares? Where can put our names on that waiting list?

A spokesman for Simons said the designer’s usual factories would produce the fall collection, which put a futuristic spin on collegiate style.

The blankets some models toted on the runway, in patterns matching their slim sweaters, form part of Raf Simons House, a new range for the home that will relate to the seasonal fashion collections. Simons trained as an industrial designer in Genk, Belgium.

The heritage collection, labeled Raf Simons 1995, consists of about 40 iconic and classic styles since the label’s inception, including schoolboy blazers, military parkas and “R” logo shirts updated for today.

via Racked

[525252]

ohmysomeone'shavingmoneyproblems

[Faust]

Bwahahahahahaha. I suppose we can now close the whole Raf sold out/no he didn't discussion?

[Fade to Black]

disgusting

[525252]

^ that's a little unfair. Everyone else can go about making money however they want without criticism, but when an "artist" compromises their integrity so they can fund whatever its disgusting? Aren't there discussions on this forum debating the right of people to make and spend their money however they choose?

I used to think wedding/corporate photography was for bullshitting talentless sellout photographers but came to realise its a sad financial necessity for a lot of photographers who are beginning/mid career.
That attitude is more than anything discouraging to people who are wanting to work in creative jobs because it puts them under so much pressure to succeed without becoming that disgusting sellout no one wants to be, but really you've got to appreciate how difficult that is to begin with.

[525252]

disgusting

or were you talking about the spunk pants?

[underdog]

I agree that the homewares line sounds like a major sell out, but didn't Raf train and start as an industrial designer, not a clothing designer. Could be a reconnection with his roots thing. Who knows if he was any good at being an industrial designer in the past though... It would be awful though if he puts that silly "R" on everything.

[Faust]

^ that's a little unfair. Everyone else can go about making money however they want without criticism, but when an "artist" compromises their integrity so they can fund whatever its disgusting? Aren't there discussions on this forum debating the right of people to make and spend their money however they choose?

I used to think wedding/corporate photography was for bullshitting talentless sellout photographers but came to realise its a sad financial necessity for a lot of photographers who are beginning/mid career.
That attitude is more than anything discouraging to people who are wanting to work in creative jobs because it puts them under so much pressure to succeed without becoming that disgusting sellout no one wants to be, but really you've got to appreciate how difficult that is to begin with.

When you find an art photographer who is already famous and rich doing wedding photography, let me know, ok?