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    Sorry for the influx of Peasant status threads, but someone posted a link to the Allsaints site, and it seems like a (generally) attractive budget brand.

    Obviously derivative, but I feel they can get a bit of a pass considering the pricing of the designer market they are looking to compete with (and it doesn't look like they have any 1:1 knockoffs)...

    Anyway I'd like to place an order but was wondering if anyone could comment on the quality first?
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    its not great, but it's perfectly adequate given the price. Saw a pair of identikit paul harnden shoes in the window yesterday. frankly they are probably better value than the real thing.

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    The CEO who iv met a few times does the rounds at the top shops, l'eclauier, library so on.
    He wears julius, viridi etc and jokes about how when he see's a piece by julius etc says ''coming to an all saints near you'' he has no dispute that all saints just rips off the designers sold in these places.

    I guess it is the best when it comes to high street stuff but i mean i don't buy that sort of thing because you see every other wanna be grunge indie idiot or wanna be goth ninja wearing the stuff. In the UK at the moment its either that or people draped in vintage throwbacks and smelling like my gran's underwear drawer.

    Seriously people don't do vintage justice' i mean the occasional vintage item worn the way merz wears his shoes is stunning. anyway i wouldn't buy the stuff unless you want to walk down the street seeing a mirror of yourslef on every other person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu View Post
    anyway i wouldn't buy the stuff unless you want to walk down the street seeing a mirror of yourslef on every other person.
    Maybe in the UK. It's virtually unknown everywhere else. Anyways, if you're looking for cheap all saints leathers just look on uk ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley View Post
    Maybe in the UK. It's virtually unknown everywhere else. Anyways, if you're looking for cheap all saints leathers just look on uk ebay.
    +1.

    snafu: it's nice to have strong feelings about design integrity and support - but not every 20 yo student can afford a wardrobe full of Rick Owens and M.A.+
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    All Saints is all right, but don't expect too much.
    Quality wise in my view is on par with H&M or Zara with a different style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu View Post
    anyway i wouldn't buy the stuff unless you want to walk down the street seeing a mirror of yourslef on every other person.
    Every time I'm in London I go to Allsaints for a couple of tees. Here in Moscow, people don't know anything about Allsaints at all. So, sometimes people at parties asking me "Where did you get this cool tee?" ))))

    By the way the quality and the price are ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magician View Post
    +1.

    snafu: it's nice to have strong feelings about design integrity and support - but not every 20 yo student can afford a wardrobe full of Rick Owens and M.A.+

    is there not another problem with this argument. if it's an exact rip of of VA, julius, ro etc., and you will apprently look like everyone else by wearing it, won't that also be true when you wear the "originals"?

    truth is that people who buy all saints don't fully "commit" to the look the way snafle would - so they'll wear a sludgy cardigan with a pair of prps worn in jeans and top shop plims. that IS a shit look for sure. but if you did wear it head to toe, it's a really close match to the real thing, and i'm not sure it's that common a look just yet.

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    i agree with snaf. I know the head designer,he used o work at l'eclaireur...and is very much a raf and rick man.
    Yes there are many high end knock offs,but what high street store doesnt?
    The quality and fabrics are a lot better than other higigh st brands.
    In trms of the look,i must disagree,i dont see many in the full head to toe look.More just simpler pieces like t's cardis and the boots.

    For a smaller budget ALL SAINTS is good,and has had a huge overhaul in the last 2 years.
    merz: your look has all the grace of george michael at the tail end of a coke binge.

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    If price is the issue why buy All Saints when the prices are the more than old Ann, Jil, and Helmut?
    But all things aside the price to quality ratio is very decent.

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    It was me who posted that All saints link...

    just because the product is affordable for the common man and not a 100% "authentic" n' original it doesn't mean it's a bad product....

    That's the kind of fashion snobbery I just can't take..if you like it and u think it looks nice..then wear it....

    My personal shopping consists og 95%secondhand..and if ppl who are worried they see mirrors of themselves walking on the streets,then I'd sugjest you try dig a bit for treassures in the real world instead of waiting for next seasons items to come out like the rest of the worlds SS/FW slaves...

    Does Spending 10000000 of dollars on RO merc make your style any more original and personal?

    brrr...I really wish the DIY section was way bigger on this forum,cus ppl seem to be so creative and into this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal View Post
    I think it's actually pretty funny. If they priced the label higher, some people on here would like it a lot better, and just call the inspiration from the brands for "a refference". I could clearly see some inspiration from Rick and Julius, but it's not rip offs. I don't own anything, but tired on some stuff once. I did like it, not amazing, but some knits etc was great for everyday use.

    Eternal, it's a total and absolute rip off (creatively), there should be no mistake about that. There may be merit to it, but original it is not. My wife has a leather jacket that is indistinguishable from a rick jacket (I think that's a good thing since she's not realyl into the whole RO look, but as a change it kind of looks good - but not worth 1500 to try every now and again). And as I said, the paul harnden shoes are EXACTLY the same as the originals.

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    I wish AllSaints had stores around here :(
    Suede is too Gucci.

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    Affordable or not, I would never buy it. And to the guy suggesting that people here would like it more it the price was higher; that is nonsense imo. Allsaints in my eyes is just as bad as wearing black scissors leathers. It's just flat out knock offs, which I would never touch, even though I am a poor student who cannot afford any of the stuff they copy.
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    just visit the website!

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    I've only been in the store they have across the street from browns very briefly. most of it looked like bad printed tees and cardigans that where along the line of something you'd find at Zara or H&M quality wise.

    Saw some leathers too, nothing was very nice, some of them had some sort of crinkle treatment that looked really bad. Quality of the leather looked about the same as topman to be honest.

    The only thing I saw that looked OK was a womens dress that was basically a perfect copy of a Herve Leger bandage dress.

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    All Saints is okay, it caters for a market who want to look a certain way. The fact that their clothes may be Julius / Anne D / Rick O copies probably doesn't register with most All Saints customers, and why should it? Not everyone is immersed in what stitching technique Rick Owens is using this season, thank God.

    The quality of All Saints stuff is basically High Street, it won't look the same after you've washed it a few times and for sure their leather is a long way from top quality, but for the price it's good.

    Trevor Bolangaro used to be the top design guy there, at one time.

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    like Johnny said, some pieces are nearly exact rip offs, not mildly influenced by something. their last fall or current spring collection had a leather that looked like Julius, and some womens leathers in particular seem to be direct RO rips.

    I'd generally say the womens wear is far superior, mens seems like a weird mixture of knock-offs and shitty grunge print t-shirts etc. I tried on several things just for the hell of it and I have to say that every one of the 10 or so items (jacket, t-shirts, knits, cardigan..) I tried had something wrong with the fit or otherwise inadequate.
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    Trevor Bolangaro used to be the top design guy there, at one time.[/QUOTE]


    He was actually one of the founders of the company.In terms of aesthetic the company has changed a great deal over the past 3 years...altho still catering for the "essex boy" and "indie kid" in many ways,it does offer a slightly edgier look for the high street.

    I totally agree with Mike...the fits are always a bit off, and the womens is far superior in terms of design (or what hasnt been bitten from other designers) in comparison with the mens line.
    The head designer for ladies wera is a lady called Maria Chen. She used to have her own eponymous label in london a few years ago.
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    This shit hurts my eyes honestly

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