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I totally agree with this. I would rather get nothing than something I will not use and I have told my family this. It is wasteful to give a gift just to give one and having to pretend to enjoy an unwanted gift is uncomfortable and mutually unfulfilling.
Originally posted by Faust View PostWhile I understand that, Heirloom, an indispensable attribute of a present is its appeal to the one you gift. I HATE giving and getting useless junk - it is incredibly wasteful. And since I usually have a dozen books or so in my wishlist, the element of surprise is always there. Everyone who knows me knows that I am incredibly picky, so my family pretty much gives up and gives me cash for my birthday, which I find to be the most fitting and therefore satisfying present, because it allows me to buy what I want. It's even better when I combine money from several relatives and buy something nice and they know they all contributed to this one thing (which in a way reflects the essence of family).
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wow, you guys are so utilitarian about this...
i never think of gifting in this practical/productive sense at all.
i say we have an all out sz potlatch, who's with me?
AKA?...I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.
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Originally posted by galia View Post
Is a potluck the same as a secret santa ?
potlatch: Literally, ‘giving’. An extravagant festival held by the Indian tribes of the northern Pacific coast, especially the Haida, the Nootka, and the Kwakiutl. The ceremonial destruction or giving away of possessions by chiefs and leading warriors establishes superiority in social or political status, or permits the assumption of inherited rights. One chief might ‘shame’ another by destroying valuable pots, killing slaves, and burning down houses. If the other chief failed either to give away or to destroy more things, then he would lose public esteem. According to legend, the first potlatch was concerned with the exchange of feathers, long regarded as sacred objects by the North American Indians.
see also Bataille on the notion of [non-productive] expenditure....I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.
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Yes! I was hoping there was a gift thread already up and the last post deals with books! Double Yessssssss!
Anyway, my bro is an english major/professor, and I'm looking to get him a nice book. My only criteria is that it is a great read, fiction, and has great packaging/presentation. I don't like to give books that aren't designed well. I'm not talking limited edition Taschen, but something nice. Any suggestions? thanks.
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Originally posted by laika View Postnot potluck,
potlatch: Literally, ‘giving’. An extravagant festival held by the Indian tribes of the northern Pacific coast, especially the Haida, the Nootka, and the Kwakiutl. The ceremonial destruction or giving away of possessions by chiefs and leading warriors establishes superiority in social or political status, or permits the assumption of inherited rights. One chief might ‘shame’ another by destroying valuable pots, killing slaves, and burning down houses. If the other chief failed either to give away or to destroy more things, then he would lose public esteem. According to legend, the first potlatch was concerned with the exchange of feathers, long regarded as sacred objects by the North American Indians.
see also Bataille on the notion of [non-productive] expenditure.
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Originally posted by laughed View PostYes! I was hoping there was a gift thread already up and the last post deals with books! Double Yessssssss!
Anyway, my bro is an english major/professor, and I'm looking to get him a nice book. My only criteria is that it is a great read, fiction, and has great packaging/presentation. I don't like to give books that aren't designed well. I'm not talking limited edition Taschen, but something nice. Any suggestions? thanks.Hobo: We all dress up. We all put on our armour before we walk out the door, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re trying to be someone else.
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Originally posted by rider View Postso sz chiefs would give away their ann d. feather necklaces i guess? cute...
galia, there is no way to do it without maximum sacrifice, i'm afraid,
potlatch is a ritual of competitive destruction; it emphasizes loss--in opposition to acquisition--as a positive property.
no one ever likes my ideas, oh well....I mean the ephemeral, the fugitive, the contingent, the half of art whose other half is the eternal and the immutable.
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ah theetruscan, thanks...these sound like great gifts for me! as far as novels go, the russian novelists are by far my favorite...
yes, it's glad to see they went the extra-mile with the Nabokov.
Looks great. I can't believe how difficult it is to find innovative book design. I can only turn up great book covers in google search, nothing really focused on packaging or design beyond the cover itself, beyond the books focused on art and photo that is.
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Originally posted by laika View Postnot potluck,
potlatch: Literally, ‘giving’. An extravagant festival held by the Indian tribes of the northern Pacific coast, especially the Haida, the Nootka, and the Kwakiutl. The ceremonial destruction or giving away of possessions by chiefs and leading warriors establishes superiority in social or political status, or permits the assumption of inherited rights. One chief might ‘shame’ another by destroying valuable pots, killing slaves, and burning down houses. If the other chief failed either to give away or to destroy more things, then he would lose public esteem. According to legend, the first potlatch was concerned with the exchange of feathers, long regarded as sacred objects by the North American Indians.
see also Bataille on the notion of [non-productive] expenditure.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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