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    Quote Originally Posted by SombreResplendence View Post
    The only question I have is: if, as Shye said, Pugh wanted to convey a woman who chews men up and spits them out, where does that leave the men in this collection? They certainly don't look like the victims.
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    I'm sorry am I looking at the same show that everyone is raving about and seem to think is better than Rick. I don't think so. Its such a rip off of Rick it's not even funny,
    1. The hair style.. umm ..think we saw this for Release spring 2010
    2. Leather jackets with the ribbing on the inner sleeve yes Rick Owens
    and if you see any of the cape like Palais Royal or Lillies jackets I swear they are the same pattern except with Pugh like chevrons on them. And the knits as well, it was basically a Rick pattern a la Pugh.

    This was hardly new ,hardly directional ,and the menswear was like a ba degree show, superfulous details and ill fitting tailoring .

    For all the Rick fans on this site im so surprised to read your praises of this collections and to say he surpasses Rick, derivative yes surpasses ... hardly!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by creature atelier View Post
    For all the Rick fans on this site im so surprised to read your praises of this collections and to say he surpasses Rick, derivative yes surpasses ... hardly!!!!!
    i don't like this if that helps...

    gareth has always borrowed far too much from his mentor for my liking and this is of course no exception. not a fan of how he cuts the body [man or women], seems totally overlooked. The clothes always fit so awkwardly on the models, and his work rarely addresses anything more than a jacket, leaving the rest a boring afterthought and carried over for the last three seasons...[those hugo boss looking pants are terrible]..you could have put anyone of these looks in any of his last three shows and not batted an eye. old Gareth seemed like it had a lot more substance to it than this dressed-up leather bondage goth-punk rick-rip... that's my take at least.
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    glad someone else sees it too!! I'm not alone

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    I disagree with the people who are bagging this season out..

    To put it simply, stop comparing every designer's work to Rick Owens. The jackets are only in a quarter of the outfits and still more impressive. Rick Owens was not the first designer to use this hairstyle on the runway or many other techniques Gareth has used in his garment construction.

    Only found myself having to adjust to the mens trousers, I'm really appreciating the new take on his older silhouettes, the new tailoring and footwear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    Eunuchs.
    Exactly! I didnt specify what parts this aggressive siren chose to chew up and spit out.

    merz: spot on again! Both gazza and rick borrow and share ideas and shapes in both their collections.Gazza used the same neoprene backed leather that rick used for his aw mens collection.
    You only have to get to the 3rd section of the rick show to se gazza written all over it.

    I think people are aplauding this collection(aswell as myself) because it is gazzas most refined work to date.
    Look at the words people are using to describe it, elegant,refined,wearable. Words never used to describe gazza. And the one word that often is,is not mentioned.....theatrical!

    It was a brave move on gazza's part.And a step in the right direction.
    As back during the ss10 shows,lami was over heard saying gazza needs to pull his finger out and make stuff a bit more wearable and change it up a bit.

    He definately pulled his finger out!
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    by years
    gareth clothes more wearable remaining hid signature .
    expect his next collections.
    it will be more good

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    I think this collection breaks this trend. At least to some extent. I must admit I quite like it.
    How do you guys like the fit of my new CCP suit?

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    does the fact that gareth can do a pretty good rick mean rick's vision is really not as broad as he gets credit for? a designer like mcqueen could never be replicated... sagmeister once said style=fart, and ian anderson said (paraphrasing) 'if you have a style you might as well get somebody else to do your work'; and of course many tried to copy tDR unsuccessfully.

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    Yep I like it.. Though it is lacking the "show" that I enjoy seeing for GP usually. It's definitely more wearable than anything he has done lately (solo). Of course his "show" element doesn't compare to say McQueen, but it was enjoyable none the less.
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    ^heh! completely agree Merz..
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    Quote Originally Posted by merz View Post
    hi. gp isn't copying dick's style. gp is partly responsible for ricks style as of the past couple of years.
    yeah and uh... before that? so all of a sudden your 'impression' and 'interpretation' is fact? i dunno, maybe you should re-read our own posts. hi...?

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    obviously if pugh were so blatantly ripping off rick they would have no relationship... now before you go typing entire sentances on my keyboard simplest question would be why does rick get more respect than pugh on the forum? and aside from that i don't see rick's current collections being that far removed from his earlier works continuity wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merz View Post
    edit: not fact, just seems to make more sense, no?
    haha oh geez. no shit? i'm not sure where i said otherwise. regardless of pugh's contributions to rick's current style, my poorly worded/thought out original point was in the end pugh has pushed rick's original concepts and aesthetic much further than rick himself. this wouldn't be possible with mcqueen, and hasn't been possible with margiela etc etc etc etc etc.

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    i'm not a linguist i make pictures

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    that was the best interaction i've seen on this forum. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by merz View Post
    we just spent a long time typing stuff to basically agree. facepalm.
    for what it's worth it was entertaining/a pleasure to read :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass View Post
    does the fact that gareth can do a pretty good rick mean rick's vision is really not as broad as he gets credit for? a designer like mcqueen could never be replicated... sagmeister once said style=fart, and ian anderson said (paraphrasing) 'if you have a style you might as well get somebody else to do your work'; and of course many tried to copy tDR unsuccessfully.
    Mass is wise, listen to Mass. "Style" by itself isn't even a valid concept in art/design/literature. It's an artificial attempt to separate things that are one and the same (content vs style). I do believe that Rick has more depth than you give him credit for but that's beside the point. The semi-replicating thing sorta throws me off too.
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    I quite like the textures. First pugh collection I've warmed up to.

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