GARETH PUGH AW10/11

[delirium]

I quite like the textures. First pugh collection I've warmed up to.

[Fuuma]

does the fact that gareth can do a pretty good rick mean rick's vision is really not as broad as he gets credit for? a designer like mcqueen could never be replicated... sagmeister once said style=fart, and ian anderson said (paraphrasing) 'if you have a style you might as well get somebody else to do your work'; and of course many tried to copy tDR unsuccessfully.

Mass is wise, listen to Mass. "Style" by itself isn't even a valid concept in art/design/literature. It's an artificial attempt to separate things that are one and the same (content vs style). I do believe that Rick has more depth than you give him credit for but that's beside the point. The semi-replicating thing sorta throws me off too.

[whitney]

we just spent a long time typing stuff to basically agree. facepalm.

for what it's worth it was entertaining/a pleasure to read :)

[diamonds]

that was the best interaction i've seen on this forum. thanks

[mass]

i'm not a linguist i make pictures

[mass]

edit: not fact, just seems to make more sense, no?

haha oh geez. no shit? i'm not sure where i said otherwise. regardless of pugh's contributions to rick's current style, my poorly worded/thought out original point was in the end pugh has pushed rick's original concepts and aesthetic much further than rick himself. this wouldn't be possible with mcqueen, and hasn't been possible with margiela etc etc etc etc etc.

[mass]

obviously if pugh were so blatantly ripping off rick they would have no relationship... now before you go typing entire sentances on my keyboard simplest question would be why does rick get more respect than pugh on the forum? and aside from that i don't see rick's current collections being that far removed from his earlier works continuity wise.

[mass]

hi. gp isn't copying dick's style. gp is partly responsible for ricks style as of the past couple of years.

yeah and uh... before that? so all of a sudden your 'impression' and 'interpretation' is fact? i dunno, maybe you should re-read our own posts. hi...?

[jcotteri]

^heh! completely agree Merz..

[jcotteri]

Yep I like it.. Though it is lacking the "show" that I enjoy seeing for GP usually. It's definitely more wearable than anything he has done lately (solo). Of course his "show" element doesn't compare to say McQueen, but it was enjoyable none the less.

[mass]

does the fact that gareth can do a pretty good rick mean rick's vision is really not as broad as he gets credit for? a designer like mcqueen could never be replicated... sagmeister once said style=fart, and ian anderson said (paraphrasing) 'if you have a style you might as well get somebody else to do your work'; and of course many tried to copy tDR unsuccessfully.

[Enaml]

I think this collection breaks this trend. At least to some extent. I must admit I quite like it.

[anatomicut]

by years
gareth clothes more wearable remaining hid signature .
expect his next collections.
it will be more good

[genevieveryoko]

too much leather...

[SHYE_POSER]

Eunuchs.

Exactly! I didnt specify what parts this aggressive siren chose to chew up and spit out.

merz: spot on again! Both gazza and rick borrow and share ideas and shapes in both their collections.Gazza used the same neoprene backed leather that rick used for his aw mens collection.
You only have to get to the 3rd section of the rick show to se gazza written all over it.

I think people are aplauding this collection(aswell as myself) because it is gazzas most refined work to date.
Look at the words people are using to describe it, elegant,refined,wearable. Words never used to describe gazza. And the one word that often is,is not mentioned.....theatrical!

It was a brave move on gazza's part.And a step in the right direction.
As back during the ss10 shows,lami was over heard saying gazza needs to pull his finger out and make stuff a bit more wearable and change it up a bit.

He definately pulled his finger out!