Broke-Ass SZers

[Would]

I feel like a lot of the first world guilt/privilege dodging/mansplaining would be largely absent on other fashion forums, which I think is part of SZ's unique charm. Marx is getting tossed around every third comment. Rousseau was mentioned. A lot of people seem to feel the need to contextualize and justify their purchases.

[Would]

honestly i can't even find the appropriate image meme for a response.

[cjbreed]

All I said was that the state is an unequalled waster, which most educated people have accepted to be true, and that I make minimum wage. I don't rely on welfare or E.I or unemployment benefits for my income.

the sad part is that you think thats all you said

[Lane]

Suzanne sounds like he/she doesnt live beyond his/her means, maybe some should take note? Honestly, though im not here to change peoples way of thinking but as someone in my 20s i decided to drastically reduce the size of my wardrobe. Especially since i was neglecting things like debt from school. Plus, ive realized i could allocate money into things that give me continual pleasure over the momentary enjoyment i get from a clothing purchase.

[blacktulip]

[Patroklus]

patroklus - i know you often like to be shocking and contrarian and funny and all that, and believe me i am a big fan of being inappropriate for the sake of the laugh and so on. but i hate this post. no offense meant here but man its just so wildly ignorant and insensitive. srsly.

i'm sorry, but i thought that saying, "i don't support eugenics, but let's practice eugenics anyway and skip the part where we kill them" was really obvious. do you really think a queer individual can support softcore eugenics with good consience?

btw, i like the idea of champagne socialism. from each, according to his ability; to each, according to his sobriety.

[Patroklus]

my favorite parts of rand's works were the characters' endorsements of homicide, but only against second-class citizens.

[fncyths]

Man, what ever happend to the hustle...

All you "broke ass" college kids should be slapped up a little bit. No there's no hate here. But then again, I know you're anxious for your balls to drop, but those things take time...

When you put a monetary value on something it cheapens it's worth...


When I wanted to buy records, I got a job at a record store

When I wanted to play music, I began to listen

When I wanted to buy clothing, I worked at a boutique

When I wanted to go to Paris, I watched Godard and listened to Gainsbourg

When I wanted to buy art, I befriended the artist

When I wanted to meet girls, I bought a camera

There's a way to live your life where you learn that it's less about what you acquire and more about what you give away.

If you think SZ is just a forum about 'where to kop' and 'waywt' than you're missing the whole point of the zeitgeist.

[Macro]

^^^^ fuck yeah.

[lost53]

Yes, and yes again

Alas that spirit is somewhat lacking when things appear to be just a mouse click away.

BTW did you make it to Paris?

[qazwsx]

Great thread.
As a full time broke-ass student, I can absolutely relate to this topic.
Until a few months ago, every time I paid a visit to my beloved realms of SZ I caught myself in an act of self-pitying for not being able to afford 99% of the garments and boots and belts and gloves that I so much adore. But at the same time I've always had that feeling of guilt for thinking that way b/c I knew that there were a lot of people around me that could afford far less than me and that didn't worry about all the clothes they can't afford, but much more about how to pay their rent for next month.

Plus - having to save up for a leather jacket or a pair of boots for a year or more raises my personal appreciation and the value the item has for me into the immeasurable.

Word. As a part time worker full time student, I feel im getting overwhelmed...that my consumption outweighs by productivity. And all these, has become a habit. First thing when get back home is to browse sufu, sz, yahoo auction jp for an hour digging for the grails. Even when some long adored item is found, the balance shown in my bank account doesn't seem too justifying to do the purchase. The long little will, purchasing power = productivity, can even be reached. How to break the habit? How to reset the priority? How to make logical decisions, instead of surfing around on sz few hours before final exams?

[qazwsx]

Man, what ever happend to the hustle...

When you put a monetary value on something it cheapens it's worth...

There's a way to live your life where you learn that it's less about what you aquire and more about what you give away.

If you think SZ is just a forum about 'where to kop' and 'waywt' than you're missing the whole point of the zeitgeist.

Should have read this long ago before i entered this.
great words to awaken us broke ass college kids.
When i watched Fight Club, some memorable quotes such as
"Things you own, end up owning you"
"What are we then? Right. We are consumers. We're the bi-products of a lifestyle obsession."
"[xxxx] is making us working our ass off so we can buy shit we don't need"
really touched my mind in some places.

Yet for our generation, we all have the same general weakness that we aren't not able to "act" upon the values/ideas we have in our mind.

Generally, we talk a good game but we never do shit.

[crtk001]

Again what is with this "grown-ups" hating on young people?

I wanted to go to OCAD and live downtown, I worked my ass off keep my marks up to get high scholarships and bursaries, however there isn't funding so I still have a large student debt.

I wanted to work in fashion, I made connections worked for magazines, got to into the crowd based on precedence not my shopping ability.

I work my ass of to finish a thesis that has me graduate top 5 out of a graduating class of 155, that gets me attention and freelance work.

I use freelance work to support my personal work, which has gotten me recognition all over, collaborating with people I idolized through school.

I am in the now working while I continue to build a thesis for when I apply to masters programs next year after working a year to pay of some debt.


This whole, kids are just whiny, unethical, unmotivated, privileged brats is a very narrow and unfair. Despite my work I am still in debt and won't be able to afford this clothes for quite a while, I know that. I bet that my hard work will one day work out for me, I just need to be patient. However, sometimes I do think it would be nice to actually own some Rick or Yohji, or any work by people I admire.

[fncyths]

BTW did you make it to Paris?

Oui bien sur! I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to assist a commercial / fashion photographer for a few years and we traveled there many times for shoots.

[Patroklus]

i need a new job, tell me how to be a stylist