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Originally posted by Schadenfreude View Postthe only time art is not shallow is when the artist is being oppressed and must find alternate means to express his or her ideas.
its sort of amazing to me how freedom limits a persons ability to convey a message outside of making it so direct and obvious it hurts.One wonders where it will end, when everything has become gay.
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i just woke up (thank god for the weekends) so im just going to keep it simple.
Due to religious persecution Michelangelo wasn't able to announce to the world that
he absolutely despised the church. he instead used subtleties in his Creation of
Adam work to announce it. Adam leaning back not really attempting to reach out and
touch god, while god is outstretched. shape behind god looks like a brain, assumed
to mean god is created by humans and not the opposite.
Where today an art school drop out can smear bodily fluids on canvas, write "the
government sux, bro," the right person walks by and bam, they are a millionaire
because using bodily fluids is "edgy"Originally posted by ddohnggofuck, that baby dresses way better than i do.
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sucks about your job going under....
all those guys hid things, had multiple meanings.
do you know felix gonzalez torres work? he's a perfect example of hiding his main intentions within his work due to external pressures. he's cuban/gay/hiv positive/ his lover dies, etc.
your bodily fluid smearing argument isn't the most original i guess you just write off all over contemporary art thenOne wonders where it will end, when everything has become gay.
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Originally posted by philip nod View Postthis is an interesting discussion because i don't understand it yet, can you give examples?
Now, this is where I don't agree - I don't think a true artist (or an intellectual) can run out of material to rebel against in any society. It is true that today it's harder, because rebellion has become a commodity, you are encouraged to express yourself, and even a mediocre artist can make a handsome living. However, look at the United States today - it ain't Soviet Union, but can you say that you don't feel oppressed by many things? I can't.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by philip nod View Postsucks about your job going under....
all those guys hid things, had multiple meanings.
do you know felix gonzalez torres work? he's a perfect example of hiding his main intentions within his work due to external pressures. he's cuban/gay/hiv positive/ his lover dies, etc.
your bodily fluid smearing argument isn't the most original i guess you just write off all over contemporary art then
I think you misconstrued what I meant. I didn't make it as clear as I could have, but I just woke up so forgive me.
Faust has my basic meaning explained within his post.
And the bodily fluid thing was a terrible way of explaining my feelings.
For whatever reason I cannot conjure the words to express the way I feel about this. I will think on it and hopefully post again later.Originally posted by ddohnggofuck, that baby dresses way better than i do.
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Originally posted by electric_alyce View PostIn the fire of serious art-discussion, I think it's important to remember one thing...
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Originally posted by xadam View Postan easy and powerful example is nwa, they existed because of reagan. what has bush wrought? something equally cool, i hope.
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/\ Beauty and the Beast, Diego style?Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
StyleZeitgeist Magazine
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