What are you listening to?

[Fuuma]

grauzone - die sunrise tapes
hermann kopp's score for der todesking

Haha, Grauzone.

[Fuuma]

yohji yamamoto+CCP+rick owens=mature adult rebellion done right. These guys might be civil in real life, but you know their ideals are elitist as fuck or else they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. Same can be said of music, so your little theory about elitism clogging up and ruining the scene is bogus. Its an inseparable part of taking yourself and your interests seriously. No rational person is actually down with plurality.

There are a lot of subcultures that are held together by a convivial sense of rebellion, of feeling like an outsider, but that doesn't mean they share any kind of relation. But HC and high-fashion seem to have a special connection, a similar cynicism about world and an extreme approach to expressing it, so in my mind the comorbidity of the two makes perfect sense. If you'de rather deny it and simply sit in bemusement, chuckling to yourself, then that is up to you.

and LOL @ the ideology of DIY. I never took that simple minded philosophy too serious because it so obviously collapses under its own weight. You cant DO EVERYTHING YOURSELF. DIY is only sensible when its advantageous or your only option and I don't see how downloading music undermines this philosophy. Didn't you ever copy LPs to cassettes for trade with your friends? Its just foolish anyway to try to make money off of something so abstract and accessible and then complain about artistic theft if someone hears it for free. If potential profits is the main concern (instead of DIY integrity) then one should choose a more concrete medium that is easier to manage.

It's too bad that I don't know the HC scene very well as you bring interesting points. Suffice to say that distinction and belonging are usually the main drivers of any subculture from a sociological point of view but, sadly, most want to deny it due to the stigma attached with elitism.

[Servo2000]

I like the taste of this philosophy stew.

[hamletpowpowpow]

shhh. just let that thread die already...please!

edit:

this just made my night. unwound - dragnalus.
i got a little emotional. i'm not kidding, it's a full moon out, i'm a little sensitive.

[LustMord]

...

Dan Lissvik
Fever Ray
Hot Chip
Xploding Plastix



Greetings LU

[SHYE_POSER]

the past few days i cant stop listening to this track by LA ROUX-IN FOR THE KILL-Skream remix

its such a haunting track,with her melancholic voice,ooooh its too good.
Its best heard on a proper stereo system to fully appreciate it,and the bass is unreal.

[Jonn]

Soft Black Stars - Current 93

[hamletpowpowpow]

i've played pretty much all the trollmann associated projects except for that one...i don't think the name is pronounceable. i really enjoy how tongue-in-cheek those guys are about their names...kind of poking fun at the whole lord of the rings/cthulu thing.

are the kids excited about unwound these days? rumor has it vern is living in a trailer. i'd say they should reform...but i dunno, the last time i saw them it wasn't nearly as good as those earlier tours. it's like this whole jesus lizard getting back together thing. i just don't know about it...

my time growing up, i guess a lot of other people's too. you know something held up well when someone half your age feels as excited about it now as you did back when. maybe pnod will pay some attention to the thread now - i bet he was at that show.

np: mad tea party - hide and seek
ungl'unl'rlh'chchch demos
j, dare you to play something of theirs in an episode, just to hear attempts at pronouncing the name

[ddohnggo]

mohinder

http://www.pukekos.org/2009/04/mohinder.html

[munch]

Nadja - Only Shallow (My Bloody Valentine cover)

this song is way beyond awesome. hope you guys heard this cover-album.

[mamaboy]

wagner

[klangspiel]

britten

[ddohnggo]

his hero is gone - 15 counts of arson

[Magician]

Cunnylinguists.

[hamletpowpowpow]

fuck, yes! i'll see yr hhig and raise you a tragedy s/t. also, we'll throw in a union of uranus, just to keep things interesting...

his hero is gone - 15 counts of arson