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**DHC** · 03-19-2008, 02:25 AM

Re: What are you reading?

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[quote user="DHC"]Early Bukowski is great. South of no north is fantastic. Wish I could say the same for the body of his work produced later in his life.
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try his letters,he had this period,early,raw,,just letters 3 fu... volumes, "..to keep this little fire..."--

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Recently (last decade) compiled Black Sparrow printings?

**theRenaissance** · 03-19-2008, 03:20 AM

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Not sure if anyone here is into graphic novel, i'm currently enjoying Alan Moore's watchman. [75]

**Faust** · 03-19-2008, 12:38 PM

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[quote user="BECOMING-INTENSE"]

I'm re-reading ...

The Parameters Of Postmodernism

Nicholas Zurbrugg 

A challenging positive view of postmodern cultur, a demonstration
on how contemporary artistic creativity discredits popular apocalyptic theories,
through artist, writers and performers like Anderson, Baudrillard, Beckett, Cage,
Glass, Rainer, Wilson, Monk, Barthes, Bourdieu, etc.

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Postmodernism is dead. Hail pospostmodernism!

**kira** · 03-19-2008, 12:39 PM

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[quote user="Faust"][quote user="BECOMING-INTENSE"]

I'm re-reading ...

The Parameters Of Postmodernism

Nicholas Zurbrugg 

A challenging positive view of postmodern cultur, a demonstration
on how contemporary artistic creativity discredits popular apocalyptic theories,
through artist, writers and performers like Anderson, Baudrillard, Beckett, Cage,
Glass, Rainer, Wilson, Monk, Barthes, Bourdieu, etc.

[8-|]


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Postmodernism is dead. Hail pospostmodernism!

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**Faust** · 03-19-2008, 12:40 PM

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[quote user="matthewhk"]right now i'm reading William Burroughs' Naked Lunch
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SELL OUT

Not that you shouldn't read the book, of course.

**Faust** · 03-19-2008, 12:41 PM

Re: What are you reading?

[quote user="mamaboy"]no offence,but i kinda surprised that fashionish crowd reads..... so f... weard[/quote]

no offence, but i kinda surprised that you read and post on fashion boards... oh, wait, you don't read.

**BECOMING-INTENSE** · 03-19-2008, 03:41 PM

Re: What are you reading?

[quote user="Faust"][quote user="BECOMING-INTENSE"]

I'm re-reading ...

The Parameters Of Postmodernism

Nicholas Zurbrugg 

A challenging positive view of postmodern cultur, a demonstration
on how contemporary artistic creativity discredits popular apocalyptic theories,
through artist, writers and performers like Anderson, Baudrillard, Beckett, Cage,
Glass, Rainer, Wilson, Monk, Barthes, Bourdieu, etc.

[8-|]


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Postmodernism is dead. Hail pospostmodernism!

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I know, I'm being very nostalgic here! [86] ... though I have never been much for these labels! [79]
But the artist, writers and performers Mr. Zurbrugg discuss here has mouthwatering prospects.
There is a short little passage titled Beuys, Adorno, and the Silence of Marcel Duchamp where
Joseph Beuys challenges Adorno's assumption that there can be "no poetry after Auschwitz."
which is quite compelling, I think even Laika would have to approve! [83]

**Fuuma** · 03-19-2008, 04:55 PM

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[quote user="laika"]

[quote user="Faust"]haha, indeed. And, knowing Jim, I wouldn't be surprised at your assessment, although it seems that since Butler invoked Adorno, he's fair game.
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If you read the JB quote that becoming-intense posted, along with this exceptionally lucid and brief piece from the Times, and if you are pretty well acquainted with Adorno, I think the difference in position between him and Judith is pretty unmistakeable. It's the intentional conflation of this difference by Miller that I take issue with, not the mere fact that he compares the two.

edit: and I swear that no provocation will entice me to mention her name again!!!! [79][86]

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I've rarely read a short piece with which I've agreed more than the one posted, however it should be obvious to forumnites by now that I've drank my culture from the same well than Mrs Butler, even though, I am actually quite unfamiliar with her writing, aside from short articles here and there.


I'm reading heartbreak tanto by Manuel Puig, finished Wong Kar-Wai from the BFI world directors series.

**Fuuma** · 03-19-2008, 06:01 PM

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I'm re-reading ...<o:p></o:p>

The Parameters Of Postmodernism<o:p></o:p>

Nicholas Zurbrugg <o:p></o:p>

A challenging positive view of postmodern cultur, a demonstration
on how contemporary artistic creativity discredits popular apocalyptic theories,
through artist, writers and performers like Anderson, Baudrillard, Beckett, Cage,
Glass, Rainer, Wilson, Monk, Barthes, Bourdieu, etc.<o:p></o:p>

[8-|]
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Postmodernism is dead. Hail pospostmodernism!<o:p></o:p>

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I know, I'm being very nostalgic here! [86] ... though I have never been much for these labels! [79]
But the artist, writers and performers Mr. Zurbrugg discuss here has mouthwatering prospects.
There is a short little passage titled Beuys, Adorno, and the Silence of Marcel Duchamp where
Joseph Beuys challenges Adorno's assumption that there can be "no poetry after <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">Auschwitz</st1:place>."
which is quite compelling, I think even Laika would have to approve! [83]
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I believe Beuys had a distinct surrealist streak, seeing mysticism and transcendence as a salve to heal the wounds of modernism, a position thinkers who espouse a rational and analytical approach to discourse would definitely have opposed no matter their specific creed.<o:p></o:p>

**BECOMING-INTENSE** · 03-19-2008, 06:27 PM

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[quote user="Fuuma"]<o:p></o:p>
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I believe Beuys had a distinct surrealist streak, seeing mysticism and transcendence as a salve to heal the wounds of modernism, a position thinkers who espouse a rational and analytical approach to discourse would definitely have opposed no matter their specific creed.<o:p></o:p>
[/quote]Yes, you're right there is indeed a "spiritual necessity" in Beuys and his favoring of an "anthropological art" that he associates with "humankind's creative strudtures and senses" and with "thought, feeling and the giving power" is a rejection of postmodern cancerous art theories and the whole notion of "modern" art. [51]

**mamaboy** · 03-20-2008, 07:25 PM

Re: What are you reading?

[quote user="Faust"]

[quote user="mamaboy"]no offence,but i kinda surprised that fashionish crowd reads..... so f... weard[/quote]

no offence, but i kinda surprised that you read and post on fashion boards... oh, wait, you don't read.


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u people sound soooo intelegent,deep, ...i just never saw well dressed academician,forget tastefully or fashionably dressed

i suspect yo fashion interesse is very much theoretical, and academicians never have any money, and my fashion involved friends so vain , so superficial they never read shit...and bukowski could not dress at all.....but maybe i am wrong

**Faust** · 03-20-2008, 08:38 PM

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[quote user="mamaboy"][quote user="Faust"]

[quote user="mamaboy"]no offence,but i kinda surprised that fashionish crowd reads..... so f... weard[/quote]

no offence, but i kinda surprised that you read and post on fashion boards... oh, wait, you don't read.


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u people sound soooo intelegent,deep, ...i just never saw well dressed academician,forget tastefully or fashionably dressed

i suspect yo fashion interesse is very much theoretical, and academicians never have any money, and my fashion involved friends so vain , so superficial they never read shit...and bukowski could not dress at all.....but maybe i am wrong

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well, don't give away our hiding place, ok?!

**mamaboy** · 03-20-2008, 10:00 PM

Re: What are you reading?

[quote user="Faust"][quote user="mamaboy"][quote user="Faust"]

[quote user="mamaboy"]no offence,but i kinda surprised that fashionish crowd reads..... so f... weard[/quote]

no offence, but i kinda surprised that you read and post on fashion boards... oh, wait, you don't read.


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u people sound soooo intelegent,deep, ...i just never saw well dressed academician,forget tastefully or fashionably dressed

i suspect yo fashion interesse is very much theoretical, and academicians never have any money, and my fashion involved friends so vain , so superficial they never read shit...and bukowski could not dress at all.....but maybe i am wrong

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well, don't give away our hiding place, ok?!

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i appologise if i sound condescending ,i mean no disrespect ....it is just ..... my observations....


and russians that i met [i guess a lot of russians in this forum]dress not fashionably at all,more utilitarian .....

this crowd i guess is very unusual and very interesting,i love it,i am full of shit myself..

**Faust** · 03-20-2008, 11:49 PM

Re: What are you reading?

[quote user="Faust"]

Modernism: The Lure of Heresy - Peter Gay.

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Still working through this and wondering why I am reading it. One of those books - you know you know it all already but hope that you'll find out something new that's worthwhile...

**laika** · 03-23-2008, 02:51 AM

Re: What are you reading?

Pasolini, Roman Poems and Poems

I force myself to understand everything,

ignorant as I am of any life that isn't

mine, till, desparate in my nostalgia,



I realize the full experience

of another life; I'm all compassion,

but I wish the road of my love for



this reality would be different, that I

then would love individuals, one by one.

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