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  • Real Real
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 619

    Originally posted by Quincy Hoist View Post
    Not actually reading anything by him at the moment, but didn't want to jack the depressing-enough financial worries being aired in the "Important" thread.

    Just wanted to say RIP for David Foster-Wallace. I was deeply moved by his writing, the whole tangled mess of it, and I'm sad to see him go. Really, truly bummed.

    I'd like to think he's discussing diagonalization with G.F.P. Cantor out there somewhere...

    What a crappy week this is starting off as.
    Agreed.

    This is worth a read - a transcript of a commencement speech DFW gave at Kenyon in 2005.

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    • mamaboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 415

      poetry of michel houllebeque ...of course in french...
      ...sophie calle "true stories"----so touching...
      but what started out as business has quickley turned to pleasure

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      • jompa
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 13

        Anyone here who would care to give me an idea of good poetry I should read(and analyse)?

        Would really appreciate it!

        /John

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        • Faust
          kitsch killer
          • Sep 2006
          • 37849

          Originally posted by jompa View Post
          Anyone here who would care to give me an idea of good poetry I should read(and analyse)?

          Would really appreciate it!

          /John
          That's a very broad question. What are your interests? What do you like to read? Your favorite authors? What period are you interested in? You can always tart with The Wasteland, I suppose.
          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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          • Fuuma
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2006
            • 4050

            Originally posted by jompa View Post
            Anyone here who would care to give me an idea of good poetry I should read(and analyse)?

            Would really appreciate it!

            /John
            Saint-John Perse. Not that I know if it would fit your taste or anything.
            Selling CCP, Harnden, Raf, Rick etc.
            http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...me-other-stuff

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            • LEWisMe
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 128

              Snow Country by Yasunari Kawabata
              "Working out is modern couture. No outfit is going to make you look or feel as good as having a fit body. Buy less clothing and go to the gym instead." Rick Owens

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              • jompa
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 13

                To be honest with you I don't know of many poets at all, and i definitely don't have a favourite. I am open to everything :)

                I do think that I would prefer modern poetry to old stuff like, for instance, robert burns which I read(or tried to to be more accurate) and did not quite "get". Musicwise however I have a lot of interest in, to me good lyrics. Nick Cave would be my favourite there, also i find the lyrics of modest mouse and the national interesting.

                If I think about it think I would like a dark but yet romantic style, perhaps synical even.

                Maybe that could help answer? if not, thanks anyway :)

                and thanks fuuma for the tip!

                and thanks Lewisme also, but I forgot to mention that, since this is for school, it will have to be a native english author. but perhaps i will read this anyway since I tend to like japanese writing.

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                • AKA*NYC
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 3007

                  Originally posted by jompa View Post
                  Anyone here who would care to give me an idea of good poetry I should read(and analyse)?

                  Would really appreciate it!

                  /John
                  Friedrich Holderlin, Harry Crosby, Charles Bukowski
                  LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?

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                  • Faust
                    kitsch killer
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 37849

                    Originally posted by jompa View Post
                    To be honest with you I don't know of many poets at all, and i definitely don't have a favourite. I am open to everything :)

                    I do think that I would prefer modern poetry to old stuff like, for instance, robert burns which I read(or tried to to be more accurate) and did not quite "get". Musicwise however I have a lot of interest in, to me good lyrics. Nick Cave would be my favourite there, also i find the lyrics of modest mouse and the national interesting.

                    If I think about it think I would like a dark but yet romantic style, perhaps synical even.

                    Maybe that could help answer? if not, thanks anyway :)

                    and thanks fuuma for the tip!

                    and thanks Lewisme also, but I forgot to mention that, since this is for school, it will have to be a native english author. but perhaps i will read this anyway since I tend to like japanese writing.
                    Flowers of Evil

                    Oh, wait, a native English author? Hmmm... T.S.Elliot still stands (for dark/romantic try The Love Song of J.Alfred Prufrock). How abut Auden? To be honest I don't know that much about English poetry. I know the romantics, but maybe they are not as dark as you need them to be? Byron, Shelley, Blake.
                    Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                    StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                    • jompa
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 13

                      maybe a native english author is not necessary, but it will have to have been originally published in english anyway.
                      I'll check out the ones mentioned here and hopefully i will find something i like, thanks for the help!

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                      • AKA*NYC
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 3007

                        ^ Of course! How did I ever forget Baudelaire? And add a dash of Rimbaud to that mix while you're at it.
                        LOVE THE SHIRST... HOW much?

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                        • Faust
                          kitsch killer
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 37849

                          Originally posted by AKA*NYC View Post
                          ^ Of course! How did I ever forget Baudelaire? And add a dash of Rimbaud to that mix while you're at it.
                          Rimbaud is a dangerous manchild. Better keep him under wraps.
                          Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                          StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                          • Magician
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 709

                            Rainer Maria Rilke is pretty timeless and manages to survive translation in to english.

                            Plus I feel it's a good fit for the SZ aesthetic.
                            Selling badass McQueen topcoat 48/38/M. I also write and tweet.

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                            • Real Real
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 619

                              How about Browning? "Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came"? It even has "dark" in the name.

                              Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came MY first thought was, he lied in every word,That hoary cripple, with malicious eyeAskance to watch the working of his lieOn mine, and mouth scarce able to


                              Anyways, that's a classic and I think it's pretty good.

                              If you want someone modern, funny, English, and dark (but not in the SZ-playing-a-pipe-organ way), how about Philip Larkin. He's good (most of his poems are more serious than this one):

                              They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
                              They may not mean to, but they do.
                              They fill you with the faults they had
                              And add some extra, just for you.

                              But they were fucked up in their turn
                              By fools in old-style hats and coats,
                              Who half the time were soppy-stern
                              And half at one another's throats.

                              Man hands on misery to man.
                              It deepens like a coastal shelf.
                              Get out as early as you can,
                              And don't have any kids yourself.


                              I like Wallace Stevens and AR Ammons too.

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                              • Faust
                                kitsch killer
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 37849

                                Thomas Mann - Doctor Faustus
                                Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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