Two questions regarding art

[casem]

Yea, what this guy said:

yeah, fuck art

[kbi]

sadly there are none =)

just to comment in general I agree a lot with what fuumaa wrote.. I more often ask myself: Does a link between art and public still exist? Sometimes I highly doubt it... a lot of artists have become circle jerkers imo

[mesko]

just to comment in general I agree a lot with what fuumaa wrote.. I more often ask myself: Does a link between art and public still exist? Sometimes I highly doubt it... a lot of artists have become circle jerkers imo

Maybe this is what my friend is referring to in the second point?

[Faust]

yeah, fuck art

agreed! irrelevant, solipsistic, commercial, vain. who needs it.

[casem]

Just like fashion!

agreed! irrelevant, solipsistic, commercial, vain. who needs it.

[Faust]

fashion is much more exciting than art these days.

[Fuuma]

sadly there are none =)

just to comment in general I agree a lot with what fuumaa wrote.. I more often ask myself: Does a link between art and public still exist? Sometimes I highly doubt it... a lot of artists have become circle jerkers imo

On the other hand why would the artist need to have a link with the public, strictly speaking they have no "social" responsibility, which is kinda the point. In fact my lack of interest with it is probably that they are TOO linked with contemporary surface culture (and mainly feeding of it rather than feeding it; sorta like a formula one company that would get its innovations from everyday cars) and that I just don't subscribe to it, I am not being prescriptive and saying you (or anyone else) cannot be interested, it just leaves me cold (right now).

[Fuuma]

fashion is much more exciting than art these days.

I am totally uninterested in fashion these days, I was thinking of going full Italian/French dandy and saying fuck it. Honestly, appart from Ann not much keeps me in the "designer" fold these days and it's not like I wear Ann right now; I just like it. Keep in mind that I'm currently in a country where people starve in the streets and I'm being driven around so my relation to reality might have been altered.

[Faust]

I think the artist wants to have a link with the public, just with the right kind of public - the one that shares his values.

[philip nod]

fashion is much more exciting than art these days.

i would have agreed with you in 2007
now i think they are both in the toilet

I more often ask myself: Does a link between art and public still exist?

i was at moma on monday and the place was a madhouse. apparently tourists are very fond of museums.

[Faust]

Indeed, it is very fashionable to go to MoMa.

[Fuuma]

i would have agreed with you in 2007
now i think they are both in the toilet

I more often ask myself: Does a link between art and public still exist?

i was at moma on monday and the place was a madhouse. apparently tourists are very fond of museums.

And museums of tourists.

[zamb]

I think the artist wants to have a link with the public, just with the right kind of public - the one that shares his values.

I think this is a major problem that extends further than Art, it extends into the wider society, where many people only want to see and hear from people that are in agreement with them................

[Fade to Black]

it's not a "problem" it's human nature

[mesko]

it's not a "problem" it's human nature

Sometimes that can be a problem: http://withfriendship.com/images/a/8...-war-photo.jpg