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  • SuE
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 173

    Originally posted by Faust View Post
    I am sure that political correctness is the last thing Rick gives a fuck about. And amen to that.
    Don't mean to derail the thread but what would you clarify what you mean by political correctness:

    Originally posted by mink View Post
    This collection was really an eye-opener for me. I was really excited about the models employed, though I'm kind of wondering if it was a reaction to Naomi calling him (among others) out on their whitewashed runways. (Granted, the accusation in question is directed at his menswear, and it was addressed only threeish weeks before the show, but I still think it's an interesting coincidence).
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    Originally posted by mink View Post
    I also wonder if the choice of angry facial expressions were really ideal. I've heard a lot of debate about that one, and many people feel that the models may appear to be caricatures of "the angry black woman."
    ?
    One should either be a work of art, or wear a work of art ― Oscar Wilde

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    • Omen
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 1

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      • Faust
        kitsch killer
        • Sep 2006
        • 37849

        Let's keep on topic, please :-)
        Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

        StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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        • interest1
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3343

          Originally posted by Shucks View Post

          or an orgasm. hah.

          (couldn't resist. sorry.)
          I just nearly fell out of my chair. Good one!

          Faust – let people be a little human and lighten up on the eject button. Geesh..
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          sain't
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          • mink
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 8

            Originally posted by Faust View Post
            I am sure that political correctness is the last thing Rick gives a fuck about. And amen to that.
            Political correctness is treated as such a dirty phrase. I'm not sure it's what I had in mind, but you can't argue that there's no desire to challenge oppressive social norms here. He's quoted in the style.com review; "We're rejecting conventional beauty, creating our own beauty." The choice of these models were really a huge "f*ck you" to a crowd that idealizes a the traditional model.

            The video is great, I loved seeing the clothes displayed with such dynamic motion. I now personally feel like the facial expressions were actually perfect for this show.
            Last edited by mink; 09-27-2013, 07:10 PM.

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            • Faust
              kitsch killer
              • Sep 2006
              • 37849

              Originally posted by interest1 View Post
              I just nearly fell out of my chair. Good one!

              Faust – let people be a little human and lighten up on the eject button. Geesh..
              I did! You had your fun for the day, no need to keep the idle chatter for longer than that.
              Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

              StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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              • interest1
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 3343


                “I love lurid, transgressive gestures
                more than anyone else, but tying up women
                no matter how willing they are doesn’t seem to come from a very affectionate place.
                And isn’t it a bit tired to spice up expensive interiors with bondage images?
                Jack off to it in private.”

                – from our favorite snuggle bunny




                from Dazed Digital
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                sain't
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                • Shucks
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3104

                  rick i love u to bits but not sure we agree on this one

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                  • Mung_city
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 36

                    I'm not sold on this whole thing. I don't find it sincere and essentially just a gimmick in itself to garner more press.

                    It's kinda like when someone calls morrissey a racist and then in order to clear his name with the public or any possible internal guilt, he donates to some anti-racism charity.

                    I'm not saying Rick is a racist, but he is definitely just trying to be something in the eyes of people and the media.

                    The clothes look bad, and are poorly worn on the models.

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                    • Lane
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 988

                      Originally posted by Mung_city View Post
                      The clothes look bad, and are poorly worn on the models.
                      thats what should matter..I mean this is a guy who use to say runways shows are not his thing,. Except now hes all about spectacles, and not really about designing I guess. I mean shit, everyone has their good runs and then they start crapping out. Some know how to exit more gracefully I guess.


                      I guess he has a "tribe" now though, so in other eyes he's a big success. I can go into allsaints talking to sales reps about him, but if I bring up Boris or something they look at me puzzled. I don't even care about the fact that his name is bigger now, but its come with watered down design, adidas sneakers, and ugly ass sunglasses. I guess there definitely is a "uniform" out there for now with his aesthetic more than ever though.

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                      • interest1
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3343

                        ^ Aren't spectacles what you put on when typical runway shows aren't your thing?

                        If he has to do one, at least let his middle finger flip convention off.
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                        sain't
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                        • moo_king
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 4

                          love.


                          amazing message.
                          moo_king

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                          • pregnantbob
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 110

                            Originally posted by interest1 View Post
                            ^ Aren't spectacles what you put on when typical runway shows aren't your thing?

                            If he has to do one, at least let his middle finger flip convention off.
                            Couldn't agree with this more

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                            • Lane
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 988

                              I dunno, I remember him being about letting the clothes speak for themselves..but I guess he doesn't want them to speak since this is quiet poetry.

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                              • Mung_city
                                Member
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 36

                                Originally posted by moo_king View Post
                                but, he's never used conventionally beautiful models, as he claims to rebuke. Instead, now he goes for an extreme counter stereotype which is sorta offensive in itself, if you really wanna split hairs.

                                Is it even about the clothing anymore?

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