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  • kuugaia
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1007

    Originally posted by copacetic View Post
    Nice to see that his sleeves, unlike ours, are properly cut.

    I was thinking about his unique style of cutting jackets and coats the other day...the long arms and short body. I don't think I've heard a good explanation yet as to why. The long arms especially get in the way of operating normally (i.e. eating without getting that shit all over your arms) and make you look foolish, like you're a teenager in your dad's clothes.

    I think it's especially relevant because season to season it seems to get more pronounced.
    I like your post about the Catholic influence in his work, and never really thought about it like that until you mentioned it. Great post. But in regards to the long sleeve's being silly and getting in the way of normal daily operation...we're not exactly buying this clothing to be practical? I'm not anyway. Maybe there isn't a big story behind short torsos and long sleeves. Maybe it's just because Amadei thinks it looks good. An acquired taste, maybe.

    I like my aviator with it's interesting (short) torso cut so it flares out slightly at the back paired with long arms. It's not usual, and maybe that's why I like it. I don't know, but that's my thought anyway.

    Don't like the most recent green pair of shoes but really like his reds in the past. The deep blood red he had for his wallets was just sick.

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    • Raw
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1106

      That bright green pair of derbies were an exclusive for Downtown I believe, so it was only for the ladies anyways .

      Your aviator does look good on you .

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      • Faust
        kitsch killer
        • Sep 2006
        • 37849

        Originally posted by kuugaia View Post
        I like your post about the Catholic influence in his work, and never really thought about it like that until you mentioned it. Great post. But in regards to the long sleeve's being silly and getting in the way of normal daily operation...we're not exactly buying this clothing to be practical? I'm not anyway. Maybe there isn't a big story behind short torsos and long sleeves. Maybe it's just because Amadei thinks it looks good. An acquired taste, maybe.

        I like my aviator with it's interesting (short) torso cut so it flares out slightly at the back paired with long arms. It's not usual, and maybe that's why I like it. I don't know, but that's my thought anyway.

        Don't like the most recent green pair of shoes but really like his reds in the past. The deep blood red he had for his wallets was just sick.
        We are not? Hmmm, I think practicality is not everything, but I think it's a lot.
        Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

        StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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        • ledger
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 48

          Let me know if this has been posted before___

          Interview with Ma From Paris LA Here.

          TALKING HOLY CLOTHES WITH MAURIZIO AMADEI

          If the making of a garment is an intuitive search for how to elicit certain behaviours from its wearer, Maurizio Amadei is your psychic psychologist and his clothes compel you to be a viking and do what you want. Since the inception of m.a+, it has been Amadei’s preternatural understanding of the body and his devotion to creating a second skin that maintains its integrity which leave the inexorable human magic in every thing he makes. His designs are charged with a rare telluric electricity and the equal emphasis he places on process and product sees him construct them to an indestructible degree. Born and raised in Rome – where he continues to work – his spirit is that of Arte Povera’s nomadic being; he who refuses to yield to the stability and rigidity of the terms imposed, who exists in a situationist condition in which what matters is surviving ephemerality and contingency, who moves about in every possible space and finds nourishment in any context.

          Nabil Azadi: Maybe I should tell you how I found my way here and to m.a+. I was living in Melbourne and one day I was stoned and walking around and I found a vest in a corner on the street. It was one of the hooded aviator vests – kind of dirty. But, of course, I couldn’t find a label on it.

          Maurizio Amadei: [laughing] Of course. You found it in the street? Someone lost it!

          NA: And then eventually someone said, “Look at that!” and pointed out the cross – which I had never even noticed before. And that was how I found my way. Before this I’d never heard of you or Carpe Diem so it’s sort of cosmic.

          MA: Yes, it is! Very good.

          NA: It was fascinating to me because I had found this inanimate thing to which I inexplicably had an instant, intimate connection. Now, it could just have been me anthropormorphising a little but it seems to me like something particularly astounding is that every thing you make never loses your mark – even with that hat over there with the unfinished hems and the loose knotted threads at the corners! You can tell that it has been in contact with human hands – specifically your hands. This is something that few people do or even see as important. Luxury exists in origins, and luxury shrinks when origins are overstated with long-winded histories – they should be imprinted on the product.

          MA: Everything I make has this direct link to me.

          NA: Ever since you were my age?

          MA: Everything that passes through my hands. It’s a little bit impossible to do otherwise. [laughing] It’s very heavy, the responsibility…

          NA: [laughing] And has it always been very clear to you what you needed to do with your hands?

          MA: Since I was a baby. I never thought to do anything else.

          NA: Now is a better time, I imagine, because it’s easier now – it’s just you. I know at Carpe Diem there were many minds at work.

          MA: Yeah, yeah – I think it’s kind of putting together the experience of one life and finally whatever I like – it just has to be something that I like… I don’t have to compromise any more which I had to do a lot before.

          NA: Do you now see the experience of compromising as something that made you lose a lot of things you loved, or as something that taught you how to fight for what you loved the most?

          MA: The second. Sometimes not everything you do is something that you like!

          NA: And one must produce so much surplus in an effort to perfect technique.

          MA: Yes, I get experimental with many possibilities… and still there is a lot to discover.

          NA: You know the vest I have? I see the soul of that garment in everything – you’re variating on a theme, I think, and that’s important because…

          MA: Variation?

          NA: Uh… Variazione? Is that a word?

          MA: Ah! Yes, yes.

          NA: So variations on a theme. First of all, you’re wearing your own clothing so it seems that you’re likely to be designing for yourself. And it is quite a concentrated specific thing that experiences minimal chord changes. I’m thinking of designers who flit between visual references because of a book or a pamphlet or a Lonely Planet city guide.

          MA: Yeah, no – that’s why I hate it when people ask me about my inspiration!

          NA: I have yet to hear an answer to that question that doesn’t destroy the romance of the clothing.

          MA: Yeah, and I always don’t know what to answer with except harmony! To be in harmony with yourself before doing it, harmony between fabrics and accessories and cuts.

          NA: Do you think this balancing act is a process that will ever be finished?

          MA: No, I don’t think so. It depends on natural events, right?

          NA: Natural events!

          MA: You know, you can go out, something might fall on your head… You’re naturally finished.

          NA: And that might not work so well if the guts of m.a+ require you to be draping on yourself! Are you still doing that instead of drawing?

          MA: Yes, absolutely – sometimes I draw small things but that’s just to remind me of the idea. But then I have to add the fabric so I can still see it all.

          NA: When you first started making menswear were you twenty or so?

          MA: Yeah.

          NA: Can you still see a connection between what you felt was correct to make at that time and what you do now?

          MA: Actually, now is the time that I am mentally at that moment again.

          NA: So it’s like it you went back?

          MA: Yeah, a lot.

          NA: Really? How come?

          MA: I don’t know, I started because I just wanted something that I couldn’t find around so I started to make pants or a bag… And then people started to ask me, “Make one for me! Make one for me!” And when I was nineteen it was better than what else I made ever. So at that age it was very free because you have no limits – you’re nineteen, and especially in my time you were quite clean-minded. So you had no idea of what the rules are, you don’t know what you have to do and what you don’t have to do, and what you have to learn… So I just went by myself.

          NA: The longer I live the more it seems as though we spend our time flitting between the same parts of ourselves. It’s like dilating time. There isn’t a straight line of progress necessarily, or it’s hard to see it as that.

          MA: Yes! Exactly.

          NA: Right. So what is this thing? This shift across time?

          MA: I don’t know but that’s why I gave the name to this project – “across”. And in the end when I finished with Carpe Diem I was quite depressed because it was a beautiful project but it was just going to die because of the disappearing energy…

          NA: It’s hard enough to work with your best friend, let alone work with people who you work with before you got to know properly.

          MA: Well, we all had great relations in the beginning and collective dynamism. But in the end, one person always tries to go in one way, and one person in another way. And so when I finished I didn’t have any new ideas about starting a new story but then it just came. People came to me and asked me to make things, like they did when I was younger. Back and forth through time. But this time they were clients who knew me, and… And so here we are?

          NA: Was it difficult to get back into the groove of finding people to work with?

          MA: Not at all, there were people who were with me and people who wanted to work. Everything it just happened without much work from me.

          NA: So was Carpe Diem a kind of rite of passage?

          MA: For me it was, of course, a window to lots of people. And that was very helpful. From when you are a child, you always have some friends who are giving you a good example or ideas… I think everybody has had someone who has been important or a rite of passage. You have always to want something because no matter what people can help you with, you have to go a certain way and you want to learn it. You don’t have to look around and talk to many people. You just have to trust yourself and do what you feel like.

          NA: And plus there is dishonesty in aggregating what other people say and living one’s life accordingly.

          MA: Actually, I think the best way to be dressed is to be naked. In the wild. But as we have this habit of dressing ourselves let’s try to make something that follows the lines of the body. For Carpe Diem I made a big story on the anatomy – I made some pieces that were cut to follow the lines of the muscles in the body. It was incredible.

          NA: You got a cadaver, didn’t you?

          MA: Yeah! It was supposed to be done directly on the client’s body.

          NA: Bespoke muscle-wear?

          MA: It was more a concept than a reality. It was such a long operation that we made some just for some individuals – it wasn’t commercial.

          NA: Most great things are. I have a friend who’s interested in trying to reproduce his skin and make a jacket out of it.

          MA: Wow, that could be great! I saw a documentary about some people who were reproducing human leather in square pieces.

          NA: Are most of your fabrics still coming from Japan these days?

          MA: Yes, most of it. They work very well. They still have a reality made of a small group of people working in an old way, so they can produce small amounts of fabric and I can go there and speak with them and choose the thread and how it’s used, and the design, which in Europe we no longer have the right to do. There is good quality but it usually is flat and industrial.

          NA: If you’re going to go to the effort of draping something on yourself so that comes from you, and making what you love, there might not be much value in making it out of a fabric that is now made from a machine that has replaced a family mill. And there’s an unsuspecting advantage to hand-make clothing from hand-made fabrics

          MA: Yes, when something is handmade it always comes out different but that’s nice. That’s the point! Maybe it’s better or…

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          • Peasant
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 1507

            Practicality is very important to me when it comes to clothing. Maurizio constantly puts out very wearable and functional pieces. Attention to form and precision cuts with fewer seams and unnecessary additions make it some of my most rotated pieces.

            Sleeve length really isn't a functional aspect but it does look good. He is a designer after-all.

            Thanks for posting, Ledger.

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            • michael_kard
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 2152

              I strongly dislike Azadi's interviews. It feels like such a waste of time (his, MA's and mine), especially when it comes to a designer like MA who is unlikely to do this more than a few times in his career.
              ENDYMA / Archival fashion & Consignment
              Helmut Lang 1986-2005 | Ann Demeulemeester | Raf Simons | Burberry Prorsum | and more...

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              • lowrey
                ventiundici
                • Dec 2006
                • 8383

                personally, I don't think an interview is done well when the questions are constantly longer than the answers.
                "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

                STYLEZEITGEIST MAGAZINE | BLOG

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                • Faust
                  kitsch killer
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 37849

                  Never heard of this magazine. Wait, Eternal, that's the same kid?
                  Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

                  StyleZeitgeist Magazine

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                  • Enaml
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 890

                    Originally posted by Eternal
                    To sum it up. A "fashion journalist" walk stoned around the streets of melbourne finding an abandoned dirty m.a+ sleeveless aviator and goes home searching for designer clothing with a cross on it.
                    This hasn't happened to you??
                    How do you guys like the fit of my new CCP suit?

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                    • kuugaia
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1007

                      Originally posted by Faust View Post
                      We are not? Hmmm, I think practicality is not everything, but I think it's a lot.
                      You're right, it's certainly very important when buying clothing. I think my wording may have been a little off. What I'm trying to say is that not all aspects of design are practical for daily operation. And there are some aspects of design that are there more to be aesthetically pleasing, than to be entirely functional. Often the more daring garments, or conceptual ones, sacrifice some practicality for design but are interesting when they do. And if it's interesting enough, I'm willing to sacrifice some practicality to wear it (obviously not to the extent where it impedes my life).

                      Originally posted by Peasant View Post
                      Maurizio constantly puts out very wearable and functional pieces. Attention to form and precision cuts with fewer seams and unnecessary additions make it some of my most rotated pieces.

                      Sleeve length really isn't a functional aspect but it does look good. He is a designer after-all.
                      I think I answered your post along with Faust's. But yes, MA+ is certainly functional with very precise and intricate panel work. However some things gotta give way for aesthetically pleasing design. I think the sleeve length of the clothing simply falls in that category, even though many people dislike the look.

                      Cheers for posting that interview ledger. Although it seemed more like a recorded conversation than an informative interview, it's better than nothing.

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                      • quiet noise
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 425



                        just had to repost this picture here, i hope tiger dont mind. THIS is obviously how the signature long sleeves are supposed to fit (unless the sleeves in that picture are cropped/altered, but looks like they are just perfectly bunched up to me). why do most stores insist to show it off like this:


                        ?

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                        • michael_kard
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 2152

                          How are the sleeves supposed to bunch like that if they're not too tight?
                          ENDYMA / Archival fashion & Consignment
                          Helmut Lang 1986-2005 | Ann Demeulemeester | Raf Simons | Burberry Prorsum | and more...

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                          • lowrey
                            ventiundici
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 8383

                            if you pull them above your wrist, they will bunch up unless you have miniature hands. its just a matter of the model throwing the jacket on quickly for a picture and not really adjusting or styling it.
                            "AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."

                            STYLEZEITGEIST MAGAZINE | BLOG

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                            • quiet noise
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 425

                              Originally posted by lowrey View Post
                              its just a matter of the model throwing the jacket on quickly for a picture and not really adjusting or styling it.
                              Im assuming he did it just to piss me off!

                              Edit: i find Maurizio's work to be some of the most inspiring stuff out there. And i mean inspiring in the sense that he makes me want to start making clothes.
                              Last edited by quiet noise; 04-04-2011, 04:19 AM.

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                              • gavagai
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 468

                                That interview is trash. Does anybody really believe that he just happened upon an abandoned aviator on the streets? This is utter BS. Anybody, anybody who lost this jacket would wander the streets forever looking for it. Also, why mention that you were walking around stoned? I'm ok with smoking but this is just ridiculous. This interviewer certainly appears to be a blatant liar and faker.

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