Re: The Comme des Garçons "Universe"
[quote user="Johnny"][quote user="Faust"]
And Johnny certainly said that - how else do you interpret his post that I just quoted?!
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I don't really want to drag this topic up again, but since I feel that I'm being misrepresented and I've been away for a bit, I wanted just to respond to you on this, for whatever it's worth. Please explain to me how the ONLY interpretation that can be given to my saying that, because I like her work generally, I'd like to see what the collaboration looks like,is that I'm saying that everything she touches turns to gold.Serously, I'd like to hear that. It's apparent in what I said that I am not pre-juding what the product will look like (positively or negatively), and in fact that the opposite is the case - that I would like not to pre-judge, but to wait and see. I agree that it is likely to be rubbish, and as I thought you knew, I am as capable as anyone else of critisizing CdGwhen I think it's rubbish (all of the pictures you posted are of rubbish clothes, none of which I'd consider buying), but it seems natural to me to be interested in what the stuff will looklikeexactly becauseit will come from someonewhose work - her body of work and certain of her current work, butnot all of it- I have an interest in, as distinct from a collaboration with someone (V&R etc) whose mainlinework I have no interest in?This seems very uncontroversial and obvious. I also thought you knewme better, and perhaps had a little more respect for me, than to accuse me of fanboism.
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I do think that you've pretty much always given her a pass. I know you have criticized her on rare occasions, but I still think that you are biased towards her work. I don't think it's really wrong, actually. We all have our favorites. I just don't see how this possibly can be good. What integrity on Rei's part can there be when H&M will make this stuff in the same sweatshops and from the same fabrics they use in their regular trash? We can wait and see what it looks like and not pre-judge - I just think it's an exercise in futility. Yes, neither of us has a crystal ball, but we have past experience and reasoning, no?
I also got upset because you equated Ann's recent change of production facilities to this. That was a cheap shot on your part. Anyway, I don't want to stir this debate up any longer. Let's sheathe our swords - I'd rather hear of your time in Tuscany.
[quote user="Johnny"][quote user="Faust"]
And Johnny certainly said that - how else do you interpret his post that I just quoted?!
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I don't really want to drag this topic up again, but since I feel that I'm being misrepresented and I've been away for a bit, I wanted just to respond to you on this, for whatever it's worth. Please explain to me how the ONLY interpretation that can be given to my saying that, because I like her work generally, I'd like to see what the collaboration looks like,is that I'm saying that everything she touches turns to gold.Serously, I'd like to hear that. It's apparent in what I said that I am not pre-juding what the product will look like (positively or negatively), and in fact that the opposite is the case - that I would like not to pre-judge, but to wait and see. I agree that it is likely to be rubbish, and as I thought you knew, I am as capable as anyone else of critisizing CdGwhen I think it's rubbish (all of the pictures you posted are of rubbish clothes, none of which I'd consider buying), but it seems natural to me to be interested in what the stuff will looklikeexactly becauseit will come from someonewhose work - her body of work and certain of her current work, butnot all of it- I have an interest in, as distinct from a collaboration with someone (V&R etc) whose mainlinework I have no interest in?This seems very uncontroversial and obvious. I also thought you knewme better, and perhaps had a little more respect for me, than to accuse me of fanboism.
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I do think that you've pretty much always given her a pass. I know you have criticized her on rare occasions, but I still think that you are biased towards her work. I don't think it's really wrong, actually. We all have our favorites. I just don't see how this possibly can be good. What integrity on Rei's part can there be when H&M will make this stuff in the same sweatshops and from the same fabrics they use in their regular trash? We can wait and see what it looks like and not pre-judge - I just think it's an exercise in futility. Yes, neither of us has a crystal ball, but we have past experience and reasoning, no?
I also got upset because you equated Ann's recent change of production facilities to this. That was a cheap shot on your part. Anyway, I don't want to stir this debate up any longer. Let's sheathe our swords - I'd rather hear of your time in Tuscany.
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