Paul Harnden

[Faust]

I'm so over Harnden, it's not even funny.

[LelandJ]

Never really understood how upper middle class peasantry and avant garde styles mixed.

[upsilonkng]

i've been looking but i can't seem to find any stores online that carries harnden? can someone give me a hand?

[bonejelly]

Paul's collections are not available online. Brick and mortar stockists can be found elsewhere in this thread though.

[Marlon]

Only store I've seen carrying online stuff is this one (no pictures though) :

http://www.mens.acoustics-web.com/?s=1449&pg=shopping&categoryid=271.328&sort=0

[bukka]

Who's going to buy PH from a website without any pictures?

[i-d-g]

Never really understood how upper middle class peasantry and avant garde styles mixed.

i have to agree to this here. don't get me wrong- i love both styles, but i don't understand the process of how they got integrated.

whenever i see a harnden/rick fit, something about it seems incongruent. the philosophies of those two brands have zero common ground.

[zen dog]

^ Perhaps this is going to boil down to a definition of avant garde but I don't see any problem here.

I have no problem with calling fashion an art form and art has always searched varied sources to confront the viewer (wearer). This goes from new materials, scientific advances, social concepts to even looking back to common "languages" and older/other cultures.

Drop crotch has to owe some debt to pants worn falling off low which came from beltless pants in prison.
Fraying from clothing worn beyond its time due to financial limits. Oversize also?
I wonder if waxed or treated pants came from clothing unwashed to the extreme- think homeless.

Bottom line- its all fair game and you don't have to like it but if something about it bothers you at least think you've been challenged.

[Faust]

i have to agree to this here. don't get me wrong- i love both styles, but i don't understand the process of how they got integrated.

whenever i see a harnden/rick fit, something about it seems incongruent. the philosophies of those two brands have zero common ground.

I've seen it done well.

But what are we talking about here? Peasant-style as avant-garde or simply mixing Harnden and Rick? Two vastly different topics - one is philosophy and the other one is WAYWT.

[MikeN]

i have to agree to this here. don't get me wrong- i love both styles, but i don't understand the process of how they got integrated.

whenever i see a harnden/rick fit, something about it seems incongruent. the philosophies of those two brands have zero common ground.

Also agree. In most cases, it would make more sense to swap the black PH blazer out for a CCP leather or Rick blazer or any other expensive black jacket.

[AVerdantShore]

I don't know--Tbone had me pretty sold on some Rick drop crotches paired with a Harnden jacket. (Of course, this was back when Rick still wowed me with the intricacy of patterns, cut and fabric choices. I don't know what's going on over there with the excessive embellishments these days, but that's for another discussion) I think it's too easy to say that the designer themselves defines what items of theirs are best paired with other items. In the case of Harnden, some of it looks a little ridiculous and we justify it because Paul is adhering to a niche look and aesthetic and hence defining what we think the jacket ought to be paired with, for example. Truthfully, I think as Faust once pointed out, Harnden jackets often look better with skinnier pants and I really like wide, loose pants on the right people. I could easily see it being worn with Layer-0 canvas jeans, CDG or Forme dropcrotches, or any other number of items.

I don't remember whose signature it is, but I will attempt to paraphrase it: "The overarching philosophy is 'does it look sick as fuck?'"

[Marlon]

Who's going to buy PH from a website without any pictures?

Not talking for me but some people just need the reference of the item to buy it online. I can understand it (if the reference is correct and if I've seen the item irl I don't see the problem). But I won't take that risk from a Japanese store (regarding return issues etc.).

[bukka]

Not talking for me but some people just need the reference of the item to buy it online. I can understand it (if the reference is correct and if I've seen the item irl I don't see the problem). But I won't take that risk from a Japanese store (regarding return issues etc.).

fair enough.

[beyondthemeans]

WGSN had this update today about Paul Harnden...
...not sure what to think. Will we get a PH ripoff in Zara now?

[Faust]

/\ can you post the text?

All Saints has already ripped PH off. BTW, one of WSGN gents is totally into the SZ thing.