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  • _yoo
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 14

    WWD: Dior Said Closing In on Raf Simons Deal



    According to industry sources, the French fashion house is close to a contract with the acclaimed Belgian designer to become its next couturier.


    PARIS — From Marc to Raf?

    Now that Marc Jacobs appears to be out of the picture at Christian Dior, industry sources said the French fashion house is closing in on a contract with acclaimed Belgian designer Raf Simons to become its next couturier.

    A deal with Simons, 43, has yet to be concluded, and sources cautioned that several key details must be worked out. Chief among them would be a start date, given that Simons, creative director at Jil Sander since 2005, would have to unravel his contract with that Milan-based house, which is understood to have been extended recently for an unknown duration.

    What’s more, given the rapid cycle of collections at a big couture house, it’s unlikely any newly installed designer would be able to produce a collection in time for Paris Fashion Week in March, let alone the couture in January.

    Dior’s design studio, headed by Bill Gaytten, has been producing couture and ready-to-wear collections since last March, when Dior ousted its longtime designer John Galliano in the wake of his racist and anti-Semitic outbursts at a Paris cafe.

    Dior officials could not be reached for comment on Monday.

    Should Dior secure Simons, it would mark the latest step up in an impressive career for the men’s wear maverick, who added women’s wear to his design repertoire only when he arrived at Sander.

    It would also suggest Dior management is prepared to nudge the storied fashion house in a more modernist direction, given Simons’ predilection for minimalism and futurism.

    Galliano, who brought spectacular showmanship and epic, romantic inspirations to Dior during his 15-year tenure, had recently been devoted to more ladylike dressing, turning out collections inspired by the founder’s earlier work and focusing on iconic styles such as its “bar” jacket and grand eveningwear. Dior presented his first collection in 1947.

    Simons, too, has recently shown a fascination with midcentury couture, incorporating ballgowns — and even bridalwear — into recent collections, winning him rave reviews from fashion critics.

    Simons has been on the radar of LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton, sister company of Dior, for some time. When Michael Kors wrapped up his stint as the designer of LVMH’s Celine house back in 2004, Simons was among candidates that advisers of luxury titan Bernard Arnault had been touting.

    In recent years, Simons’ fashion star has continued to rise given a string of hit women’s shows for Sander. His spring-summer 2012 collection reimagined ideas from the Fifties into hyper-chic fashions for today.

    According to sources, Simons had also been approached by Yves Saint Laurent, which has yet to indicate if it will extend its relationship with Stefano Pilati, who succeeded Tom Ford as the house’s chief designer in 2004. Pilati’s latest contract is due to expire in March.

    Born in Neerpelt, Belgium, Simons moved to Genk and obtained a degree in industrial and furniture design in 1991. He segued from furniture into fashion and launched a youth-oriented, street-inspired collection of men’s wear in 1995.

    He started showing it in Paris two years later, and quickly caused a sensation with his skinny tailoring, street casting, and such imposing runway venues such as La Grande Arche de la Défense.

    A designer with an intellectual bent, Simons is also an enthusiastic fan of contemporary art — echoing Dior’s earlier background as an art dealer.

    At Sander, he has elaborated on the German brand’s esthetic, adding dresses and eveningwear to its signature tailoring. “I knew in the long run I couldn’t only think about minimalism and purism,” he said in a 2008 interview.

    For his spring 2011 collection, he invoked the grandeur of couture and the extravagant style of Elisabeth of Bavaria, the iconic royal, a riposte to other designers who had muscled in on minimalism. “It almost challenged me to the opposite, to do the idea of maximalism,” he told WWD at the time.

    Earlier this year, Simons was an honoree at Fashion Group International’s Night of the Stars in New York.

    Simons emerged as the new front-runner to succeed Galliano after talks to move Marc Jacobs over from Louis Vuitton came to a halt last month.

    It is understood Dior has considered a wide swath of potential candidates, from young to mature talents, long insisting it would take all the time it needs to find a designer strongly matched to Dior’s DNA and ambitions.
    Last edited by _yoo; 12-14-2011, 09:10 AM.
  • zamb
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 5834

    #2
    This is stupid

    and if the bigwigs at Dior, Vogue and everywhere else really cared they who do the most feasible thing and get Theyskens out of his contact at Theory and get him installed at Dior as soon as possible

    at this time, there isn't a single designer with the range and skill that would fit Dior like Theyskens would.
    Maybe they are still seething about the whole Givenchy issue, but from my vantage point, it would be the most reasonable thing to do..........
    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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    • zamb
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 5834

      #3
      Modern Couture:

      the dress that made him a star.....








      “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
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      • Magic1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 225

        #4
        I feel raf has been going downhill at both the raf simons line and the jill sander line. both have been disappointing. I think they're picking up someone on the decline: someone who is exhausted. but maybe that'll turn around given a different aesthetic and different resources.

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        • Smythson85
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 22

          #5
          Totally agreed with Magic1. The collection of Raf Simons and Jil sander are now so much alike. The pieces shown on the runway has been losing the wow effects. I think Raf needs to take a break than taking up another brand.

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          • Faust
            kitsch killer
            • Sep 2006
            • 37849

            #6
            yoo, post the source of the article, please, and the link.
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            • _yoo
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 14

              #7
              Faust: just did.

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              • Pumpfish
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 513

                #8
                Why the fuck shouldn't he?

                I think all of his energy has been going into the Jil Sander womenswear collections (which are more hit than miss). And Dior would be a great next step for a creative director careerist.

                From Dior's perspective, he has proven himself a safe pair of hands at Jil Sander, capable of absorbing the essence of a brand and advancing it.

                And he is unlikey to cause any upset to Dior sensibilities (unless they object to Joy Division played at moderate volume in the atelier.)
                spinning glue back into horses. . .

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                • Faust
                  kitsch killer
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 37849

                  #9
                  It's not a question of shouldn't, but of capability. Jil Sander seemed somewhat fitting and is not a very complicated design job. Her minimalism seemed like a good next step. Dior though is full on glamor and consumerism. Galliano was perfect for it. Raf is far from.
                  Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde

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                  • zamb
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5834

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pumpfish View Post
                    Why the fuck shouldn't he?

                    I think all of his energy has been going into the Jil Sander womenswear collections (which are more hit than miss). And Dior would be a great next step for a creative director careerist.

                    From Dior's perspective, he has proven himself a safe pair of hands at Jil Sander, capable of absorbing the essence of a brand and advancing it.

                    And he is unlikey to cause any upset to Dior sensibilities (unless they object to Joy Division played at moderate volume in the atelier.)
                    Exactly as what Faust said

                    designing for a house like Dior required a range of skillset and a perspective of design that is the very opposite of what Raf stands for.

                    there may be arguments about him selling out or whatever (I wont get into that) but he has always been a minimalist..............Dior is about glamor excess and frou frou.
                    “You know,” he says, with a resilient smile, “it is a hard world for poets.”
                    .................................................. .......................


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                    • messenoire
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1232

                      #11
                      from how i see it JS and raf could be, during certain seasons, mistaken for the same line or even one being a diversion line of the other. at this point raf seems more fitted for something a long the lines of calvin klein minimalism rather than trying to follow in galliano's footsteps. raf has gone down hill in the past few years anyways and a lot of his collections seem like they've lost their steam all together lately. i still think haider would have done beautiful things with dior but c'est le vie. marc jacobs was an awful choice for dior because through and through he seems more in tune with luxury masturbation, both at LV and his lines, than anything else.

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                      • michael_kard
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2152

                        #12
                        I'm very very curious to see the outcome of this.
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                        • Faust
                          kitsch killer
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 37849

                          #13
                          Originally posted by _yoo View Post
                          Faust: just did.
                          Thanks, and thanks for posting! Refreshing to see a new member post an article instead of asking for a fabric code.
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                          • Pumpfish
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 513

                            #14
                            If you look at the giant step Raf took going from his own mens line to JS womens, I don't think Dior is as big a step.

                            OK the fancy pants catwalk events may be a stretch, but if you look at what Dior actually sell women in their shops, it is much more spare.
                            spinning glue back into horses. . .

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                            • Faust
                              kitsch killer
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 37849

                              #15
                              Sure, but would they sell the same amount without the runway theatrics and the wackarnolds ads?
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