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Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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^ actually I don't think that someone who produces music but doesn't sing/rap to their audience can be made in to an icon in the same way Kanye or Bowie can.
There's just a lot less to relate to for the average person. Maybe time will tell, though.
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I'd say Skrillex is a bonafide star. It's an interesting genre with a tremendous following among the young.
Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Damn. I just read that New Yorker.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious at this point that EDM (whatever that means) producers are making it big. What I'm saying is that the audience/performer relationship is actually quite different with these artists compared to more traditional musicians.
If you go to a rock concert, you feel like you're listening to the lead singer. If you go to an electronic concert, you listen to the speakers.
A crude way of putting my point but i think you get what I'm trying to say.
edit: Just after typing this I think of an example of a dj who's fashion has influenced others. So I don't know why I find this idea of producers as icons so strange.
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Originally posted by apathy! View PostDamn. I just read that New Yorker.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious at this point that EDM (whatever that means) producers are making it big. What I'm saying is that the audience/performer relationship is actually quite different with these artists compared to more traditional musicians.
If you go to a rock concert, you feel like you're listening to the lead singer. If you go to an electronic concert, you listen to the speakers.
A crude way of putting my point but i think you get what I'm trying to say.
edit: Just after typing this I think of an example of a dj who's fashion has influenced others. So I don't know why I find this idea of producers as icons so strange.
Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Lois Grüveltner View Post/\ EDM means "Electronic Dance Music"
Originally posted by Faust View PostNo idea!
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Originally posted by apathy! View PostI'll condense what I was trying to say as much as possible: rapper/rock stars talk to their audience and producers/djs don't. Hence, the relationship is weaker.
I think DJs/producers can now connect to their audience in ways that previous musicians couldn't, through social media. Maybe more of a personal connection than a 'leader of a movement' type connection.
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/\ You talk about hip-hop as if we are still in the 90s. Come on, every other privileged white girl from the burbs shakes her ass in da club to hip-hop.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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Originally posted by Faust View Post/\ You talk about hip-hop as if we are still in the 90s. Come on, every other privileged white girl from the burbs shakes her ass in da club to hip-hop.
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Again, I think you are largely stuck in the 90s. Come to New York and see who drives fashion now, especially high-end streetwear - it's the young black kids. Hood by Air is no accident.Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months - Oscar Wilde
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I have no clue what that is a picture of, is this some new porn promotion?
From what people in this thread are saying it sounds like music is a monolith, I feel that you are far from the truth. Yes, many rappers make a lot of money but you fail to see huge acts from eras past who still are making fortunes. Yes, rock and metal has decreased in popularity from their peaks but they still are popular to a large portion of the population. EDM is liked by a large segment of the younger people but it has huge issues to work out, one in specific is prerecorded sets. Sure it is great to see a big name dj or producer, but when people pay to see the producer live and the producer just pushes play on a mix it raises questions about authenticity.
Same with fashion, while streetwear has become a large portion of the market it is far from taking over. It seems like this is just another example of people cashing in on trends in society. First people marginalize minorities, then they see that they can sell them back their own culture for a hefty profit.
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