I'd like to add that I'm 100% for the rights of gay people to civil marriage. I don't think it means much anyway, but if it legalizes their union and gives them the same rights as straight couples I think they should have it. Just don't try to reform religion, it's not concerned with the same plane of existence
I have contributed this to correct some lazy intellectual shortcuts that were used to bash religions. However, I feel it is best to keep one's beliefs on a low key in an intellectual debate, as it can easily be perceived as bible thumping and is more detrimental than helpful to the cause you are trying to promote zam. You can defend the soundness of your position without bringng god into it explicitly. I don't know why believers don't see that this is in most cases detrimental to their case (if convincing is the goal. If it isn't then fine)
I have contributed this to correct some lazy intellectual shortcuts that were used to bash religions. However, I feel it is best to keep one's beliefs on a low key in an intellectual debate, as it can easily be perceived as bible thumping and is more detrimental than helpful to the cause you are trying to promote zam. You can defend the soundness of your position without bringng god into it explicitly. I don't know why believers don't see that this is in most cases detrimental to their case (if convincing is the goal. If it isn't then fine)
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