Hedi Slimante to YSL (?)

[vapidly]

Not at all. I suppose it wasn't very clear, but what i was getting at was his earlier designs wouldn't fit in this decade. I'm not saying that he can't make relevant clothing now, but I feel a lot of his allure is directly related to his earlier days at dior, which, maybe a lot of people would like to see again.
For instance, Rick Owens has a very defined aesthetic, but his collections are constantly building on his previous years, which creates a wonderful, constantly progressing body of work.
Bringing Slimane to any large house with mild-great success would disrupt their aesthetic.

I feel a bit derlious right now. I know I haven't clarified myself very well, but I hope I will be able to later tonight. I must be off!

[michael_kard]

KVA has been doing a better job defining DH with every season and I feel like the collections are just starting to move DH into the next stage of its development.

Allow me to use images to convey my diametrical opposition to this statement:







There's at least 35987 more printed t-shirts out there, all WTF-worthy. I strongly believe KVA does a generally bad job.

[vapidly]

KVAs first few seasons were shit, I agree, but I am talking about a progression and it is apparent that he has moved away from that position. Hedi Slimane also had his share of printed shirts as well, albeit most had a tad more taste than KVA, but those are pieces that either designer makes to sell towards those who can't afford pieces from a collection, but still want to be apart of the brand identity. Those pieces you have selected don't really speak much of KVA design work as much as it speaks of LVMH and those are obviously not runway highlights.

[neonrider]

i don't know. have you (or anyone else here) actually bought anything from kva-era that wasn't just a carried over design? if you have bought it, do you actually (enjoy it when you) wear it? for me, the answer's no on both counts.

leaving aside the "cultural" aspects, i do think there is a sense of sharpness, detail, and proportion slimane (and plokhov) brought that's missing in today's landscape. i suspect i'm not the only one that thinks so.

[vapidly]

While I have not purchased anything during the KVA era, I have handled some of the pieces at jeffrey and atelier. Specifically the pieces I handled at atelier I was rather surprised when I saw they were dh.
I do see kva, especially in the first two seasons, relying heavily on what slimane did, and rather poorly at that.
The latest FW, which i rather enjoyed, definitely has elements of early slimane, but there are also many other elements going on and worked very well with the collection as a whole. There are actually pieces in this collection that I would be interested in handling and perhaps even buying.

[ES3K]

(...)There's at least 35987 more printed t-shirts out there, all WTF-worthy. I strongly believe KVA does a generally bad job.

Whatever your opinion on KVAs talent is, this is not really a proof -- t-shirts, sweatshirts etc with senseless slogans and denim I would never wear was already around when Hedi was at the helm.

[michael_kard]

I personally love t-shirts with prints in general when I'm in a jeans/sneakers/t-shirt mood. As such I can appreciate a print that has some sort of meaning, makes an interesting point or is plain beautiful. KVA designed the worst type of prints; the wannabe campy/glamorous one. Hedi's t-shirts were fine, because they were not necessarily created for attention-seeking douchebags like the one above. I mean, it's worse than D&G.

[vapidly]

oh please hedi slimane had his share of lame ass t-shirts as well. they are t-shirts like i discussed above. They really aren't meant to make or break a collection. I'm not familiar with any kva/slimane for dior ad campaigns that featured t-shirts, lame ass print or attention whoring words. I think that anyone is an idiot to buy a cotton t-shirt with a screen print on it for 200$, i don't care who designed it, that is, unless it is an extremely limited run. The point is, KVA and his last two runway shows have been great and has shown progression. Give him credit for having to fill some very large shoes. Its not DH in its glory days, but it's improved considerably since KVA's first collection for DH.

[gnow]

don't know where I should post this, so just gonna post it here. Decent read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/21/hedi-slimane-designer-photographer?CMP=twt_gu

[ironman]

i enjoyed that, thanks for sharing gnow!

found it funny how they hyperlinked wikipedia in the 2nd paragraph lol

[gnow]

I would also like to thank-you for sharing this, just quickly skim read it...
I walked for Hedi a few years back, wish I could turn back the clock!!!

skimming through it won't do! It's really one of the better interviews I've read so far. its also nice to know what Hedi's been up to.

[Faust]

don't know where I should post this, so just gonna post it here. Decent read.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...her?CMP=twt_gu

Yeah, was gonna post it, but did not like the article at all.

Anyway, the huge book of his photography is coming out this months. $300 though...