I think the switchblade is excellent sole design but looks terrible w/ adidas's default upper and is socio-culturally somewhat overcoded by the fact that such a major corporation came up with it. Screw socio-cultural codings, I care more about "innate" properties of the design. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how to fix the upper... but, should a designer try to design things that make him/her look intelligent, or should s/he design the best work/product that s/he can?
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"He described this initial impetus as like discovering that they both were looking at the same intriguing specific tropical fish, with attempts to understand it leading to a huge ferocious formalism he characterizes as a shark that leapt out of the tank."
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Originally posted by upsilonkng View Postthis Adidas thing... more and more I'm starting to believe will be the death of Rick.
Originally posted by upsilonkng View Postand anyone who falls for this I honestly have to question if u even really care about these designers at all or if u are just a flat out label whore. I think u don't and u are.
Shouldn't be surprising, what usually happens when large corporations get involved? product not art that's for sure. That seems to be where we're heading..
i mean shit man that blade shit and then shelltoes? what's next? is Rick going to outfit RunDMC??? don't laugh because it'll probably happen, he already did those fake huge adidas shorts, how long before a full dmc sweat outfit w/ those shelltoes? coming in at a clean $4K retail, I know Shucks is already wearing it.
you come across as pretty aggressive lol. I guess not everyone has as noble a wardrobe as you.
I'd never buy anything from the rick/adidas collaboration because I only buy a new pair of shoes every 6-9 months or so. Really I don't even need to buy that often. Where do you draw the line at what is excessive consumption?
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I don't know what ur talking about. Adidas designs what nike designs 6 months to a year to however it takes them to make a worse looking version that doesn't work as well. That's what Adidas does. I can point out about 100 shoes in the last 10 years. And reebok... I think they give rappers shoes they don't design squat.
I don't think it should be ricks job to make a horrible looking sole that's passable in function only because it's not as awkward as it looks look good or decent. I like Rick doing Rick. But it seems I'm in the minority.
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Originally posted by upsilonkng View PostI don't know what ur talking about.
As it turns out, the history of the item is that adidas came up with the switchblade and did a terrible job of executing it (ugly upper)... that history taints perception of the sole, but is not innate in the sole, it's just a contingent property. In order to get to the good design, rick only had to take a tiny uncreative step - minimizing the uppers. The fact that events occurred in such a way that placed a good design in a causal location which the designer of them look neutral/bad is contingent and does not factor into my evaluation of the shoes themselves.
Good design on the designer's part and good design in the product are not always the same thing.
I don't follow adidas, so I can't confirm, but you're probably right about adidas being an uncreative company that rips of nike.Last edited by trentk; 06-28-2014, 04:28 AM."He described this initial impetus as like discovering that they both were looking at the same intriguing specific tropical fish, with attempts to understand it leading to a huge ferocious formalism he characterizes as a shark that leapt out of the tank."
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Originally posted by eleves View PostHow do spring blades even feel? Does anyone have any experience? I imagine gallant bouncing/prancing, very deer like. I didn't really pay much attention to the Rick show because I already saw Prometheus when it came out but these spring blade trainers have been popping up the most. These look more like building upon a current silhouette as opposed to the original rickdidas which looked like a whole new concept
But on to my thoughts. I wanted to give myself some time to process this, after my initial reaction of NOPE, but thats where I still stand. I want to like this so much, I mean, this is my color palette to a T, and I think I just keep holding out to once again being blown away by a Rick collection after the last few seasons of meh, but I just can't. This is all just too Rick by Raf by JW Anderson for me. Clearly there are some great pieces in the mix. A lot of this feels gimmicky, I just CANT with the harnesses, and don't get me started on the rickdidas mess footwear. Guess I'll just keep waiting...
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Originally posted by morsto View PostIt has become an interesting thing making opinion about rick collections - stores buy the safe pieces, which are barely shown on the runway anyway, hence making the runway shows somehow a tangent to the actual buyable pieces. Anyhow, I find this entirely disinteresting, except for look 31 on the GQ page. The footwear looks clumsy as fuck. The prints look as if they are nicely done (while the motif is not my cup of tea). Surely there will be some nice pieces in there somewhere, looking forward to one of you boys reporting form the showroom"AVANT GUARDE HIGHEST FASHION. NOW NOW this is it people, these are the brands no one fucking knows and people are like WTF. they do everything by hand in their freaking secret basement and shit."
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Interview on SS15.
Clearly a lot of great references & background as usual.
Primal vs sophisticated is nicely straightforward, and Debussy certainly doesn't hurt. The explanation of the drawings is rather tender.
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Originally posted by upsilonkng View PostI don't know what ur talking about. Adidas designs what nike designs 6 months to a year to however it takes them to make a worse looking version that doesn't work as well. That's what Adidas does. I can point out about 100 shoes in the last 10 years. And reebok... I think they give rappers shoes they don't design squat.
I don't think it should be ricks job to make a horrible looking sole that's passable in function only because it's not as awkward as it looks look good or decent. I like Rick doing Rick. But it seems I'm in the minority.
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